2005 error penny? Warped no tool marks

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by tlasch, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    There is one ding at the bottom on the obverse, however this looks like either a die mark or it was done by a coin counter attempting to process this particular penny.

    I don't collect error coins so I don't know what to look for but here are the factors I've noticed:

    1. No Tool Marks
    2. Good impression with no "Stretch marks" on the copper coating.
    3. Looks warped like too much pressure caused it to heat the zinc and deform.


    I don't know judge for yourself and please let me know I am quite curious.
    If it is an error coin (I know the pictures are bad) what is an "Approximation of value" to a collector.

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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Very hard to tell from the pics. My guess based on the pictures is PMD, however it does look like there might be a small clip in the last pic.
     
  4. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado


    PMD = "Post Mint Damage"?

    Is there any error coins from the mint that are warped?

    It seriously looks to me as if it was done at the mint but how?
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Not likely. Excessive pressure will give SHARP details and possibly finning around the outside of the rims.

    Yes. Off-center. Saddle strikes. Die cap. Just to name a few.

    There is no way to tell from your photos.
     
  6. tlasch

    tlasch Penny Hoarder & Food Stamp Aficionado

    Any suggestions for better pictures then


    my thing is that I personally have bent pennies to a similar angle & they always develop strech marks on the copper plating and a tool mark is always left behind. This one has neither
     
  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    You need to use a camera with a macro setting.
    You need to hold the camera still while shooting (e.g., with a copy stand, tripod, etc.)
    You need good lighting.
    Don't shoot the coin at a steep angle.
     
  8. whatnellzat?

    whatnellzat? New Member

    I Have Found Three (3) Such Pennies.
    A few years ago...I came across one in pocket change ('92 Lincoln), found nothing regarding it.
    Over the past six (6) months, I've found two (2) more....both on a Roof (I Am A Roofer)...a Metal Roof....one was found "in the field", the other near a vent (coated with sealer).
    I'm thinking...,the heat had something to do with the warping?
    Could it be because of the Metal in the Coin, itself?
    ****I was thinking of conducting an experiment with a frying pan/skillet on the stove.
    From your photos, the coins I have...are more Prominent/Distinct.
    Am I Wrong...or are these pennies actually "errors"?
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well the zinc cent does have the lowest melting point (and therefore the lowest temperature at which the metal could be made to deform easily) of all the coins, about 800 degrees F. (If your roof is reaching those temperatures you have a real problem.) And the copper plating would have severely oxidized at those temperatures as well. I think we can ignore heat as being the culprit.
     
  10. whatnellzat?

    whatnellzat? New Member

     
  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Could have been bent with pliers with a heavy towel or cloth to avoid showing tool marks.
     
  12. Dans Coins

    Dans Coins Member

    it was used as a screw driver. i used to do this all the time before my new hobby.
     
  13. Andrew Pruitt

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  15. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

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  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Old thread.. What is your question?
     
  17. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Yep, what he said. Someone used it like a screw driver and the bend and chip are the results of that stress.
     
  18. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    BAM

    Bent after Minting

    It's damaged.
     
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  19. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    old thread

    during the coin ring making process one first domes the coin while preserving the strike details. Of course if you don't do it right with the right tools ... well, you can cause various problems like the original one. Or do a better job like the second one from @Andrew Pruitt

    if you are really bored just lightly hydraulically press one ...

    or smash a bunch of them !!
     
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