Why do proof sets from 2009 and on have a forsted look on the design?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Luke1988, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. Luke1988

    Luke1988 New Member

    I noticed that my 2009 set and all the 2010 sets that i have seen have more of a frosted look to the design and wanted to know why that is?
     
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  3. krispy

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    It's the Mint's newer die preparation for proof coins to give a greater cameo effect, 'laser etched finish' or 'laser frosted proofs' are how some tend to refer to it.

    I personally dislike it as I feel it masks a lot of detail, shows defects easily and looks cheap and grainy (texture is too heavy). It actually started to appear around 2003 with certain special issue coins and medals.

    Here's a document from the Mint that discusses it: 2003 United States Mint Annual Report [PDF]

     
  4. Mojavedave

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  5. Luke1988

    Luke1988 New Member

    Are they doing this on all all proof coins such as Gold Eagles and modern commemoratives?
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    What's a (post-2008) Proof Gold Eagle?
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    They use it on Proof AGBs. I am fearful of what the 2010 W proof AGE coming out next month will look like... and I really hope they resume issuing Proof ASEs but I'd really be disappointed to see this effect on ASEs. The recent commemoratives did indeed use the laser frosting: BSA and Vets have it on them.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    And contrary to Krispy and Dave, I like 'em....:)
     
  9. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Ken, I'm glad you chimed in. I was looking for examples of your recent modern silver commems to link to for the OP. I know you posted some pics somewhere but there were so many BSA threads I couldn't find your pics. Your images are good examples what with your new camera and macro capabilities. I thought it would be a good example... plus your other thread with the new 2010 Mint sets.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Let me see what I can find in my "attatchments" Chris. I'm currently on my daughters laptop.
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    How's this for starters?
     

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  12. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Supa' dupa!
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Couple more.....
     

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  14. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Those are some super shots Green18, are these with or without the plastic holders ?
     
  15. Luke1988

    Luke1988 New Member

    After looking at those coins i have to say i like the old style much better:(
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    That's through the holder Dave. Thankyou.....:)
     
  17. sgtbigred

    sgtbigred New Member

    usmcpr.jpg Here are some to compare to. One is 2010 and the other 2005 both are proofs.

    disabeledvets-proof.jpg
     
  18. sgtbigred

    sgtbigred New Member

    Here are 2 to compare with. One is 2010 the other 2005.

    usmcpr.jpg disabeledvets-prrev.jpg disabeledvets-proof.jpg usmc-rev.jpg
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Lovin' that avatar coin sarge......:)
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Luke there's something you need to understand that you are apparently unaware of. That being that Proofs have always had that frosted look. It's nothing new, they were designed to have that look since the 1800's. It's called cameo and cameo Proofs are considered to be of the highest quality.

    Now that's because prior to 1973 very few of the Proofs actually ended up having the cameo look. The mint was not as careful with Proofs prior to that date and they would use the dies until the cameo wore off and then keep right on using them. So most of the Proof coins prior to 1973 do not have the cameo or deep cameo. From '73 on the mint changed their habits and they made an effort to make sure that only cameo Proofs left the mint.

    Now the only thing that has changed regarding the cameo on Proofs is how the dies were prepared, the different methods used to achieve that look. They have been sandblasted, etched with acid and now they use a laser to get that look. But Proof dies, when made, have always had that frosted, cameo look. They were supposed to have it.
     
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