Frankie grading help

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by gf32, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. gf32

    gf32 New Member

    Just picked this up out of a roll I got a few hours ago. I was a little shocked to see it. I haven't had a whole lot of practice grading Franklins so I was hoping for a little help.


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    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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  3. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    The second photo reveals wear on the hair, so AU-55 +/-
     
  4. chip

    chip Novice collector

    That coin seems to either be a proof or polished.
     
  5. gf32

    gf32 New Member

    I don't think it's a proof, after looking a little closer it looks like it may have been polished but that's ok cause it only cost me $.50.
     
  6. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    well, it's worth more than that in silver alone, so you got a great deal regardless of grade
     
  7. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    It looks like a lot of luster but with those pictures it's hard to tell.
    Great coin for 50 cents!
     
  8. That is not a proof but could be polished. Tough to grade from pics. Anyway, great find for face value. Congrats! TC
     
  9. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Tough to tell from pics, and Franklins are hard for me to grade anyway. It is a nice looking coin though. ( I hope it hasn't been polished, that would be a shame)
     
  10. Farstaff

    Farstaff Member

    It is very hard to tell with these photos, but the 1961 Franklin are generally known for having a poor strike.
    Here a link on how the grade Franklins that is helpful. http://wnccoins.com/0014.htm
    and if you are really interested in Franklins, I suggest purchasing Rick Tomaska book "The Complete Guide to Franklin Half Dollars"

    BTW: Good pick up for .50C
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't think it's been polished, but I do think it's AU.
     
  12. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member

    The 1961 were notorious for weak strikes which resulted in loss of hair detail on the obverse and bell line and eagle feather detail on the reverse.

    The top coin is a rather nice example of a Mint State coin found in circulation, albeit from a roll, and would probably fall in the range of MS-63 What concerns me are the cuts in the field on the obverse in conjunction with the nicks on Franklin’s cheek. The weak hair detail does not concern me for this grade. On this particular coin, it is very hard to determine what is going on just to the left of the bell crack? There is lots of original luster left on this coin, look at the motto area on the bell, it still has a bit of frostiness to it, a good sign. In hand or with better images provided, my analysis of condition could change.

    The second coin to me is still MS but it’s going to be rather low on the scale, just making 60-61 at best. There appears to be what looks like handling damage to the bell just left of the crack and Ben has taken a few significant hits as well, if this in fact a damaged area due to post mint handling, the grade will significantly fall off, maybe to even Genuine status.

    1 out of 2 ain’t bad

    Happy Collecting
     
  13. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    It's the same coin.
     
  14. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member

    I thought they looked similar, the refracted light made it look like two different coins, not two different angles on the same coin. The blemish I seen to the left of the bell crack is really noticeable in one scan, but subdued in the other...but at least I did point it out on both images. This is exactly why good images are required to correctly grade a coin on a message board...I still feel it's a MS but a low MS. If that is some type of handling damage on the reverse, all bets are off.

    Thanks for pointing this out.
     
  15. gf32

    gf32 New Member

    Thanks for the input everyone. Like I said I'm no Frankie expert and pulled it out of one the bank rolls. Good pick up for only face value. Thanks much
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I concur!
     
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