$25.98 shipping for 2 Peace dollars

It is being enforced. However, like most of eBay, enforcement occurs when, and usually only when, someone tells eBay there is a problem.

 

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Depends on how he is shipping it. If he ships registered insured that may not be that far off. But you are probably right, he's lying.

Statequarter guy, the catagories you list only apply if you want to charge more than eBay set maximum and in order to charge more there you have to use calculated shipping. At the top of the section it says that it is against the rules to charge excessive shipping and it say you can charge the actual shipping cost plus an allowance for handling that equals cost of materials.

No, but if I report you for fee avoidance they will shut down the auction.

 

The coins arrived in separate bubble envelopes, loose with no wrapping or paperwork, with 2 stamps on the front.

 

Were I you, I would contact eBay and find out exactly what could be done.

 

paid $5 for silver dollars? dont get greedy. On the other hand, sellers are wrong to sell for cheap the ship for high to make it up

 

Yeah, rat finkus. If I'm gonna pay that kind of money for shipping I want an honor guard pullin' up in front of the house.....

 

C'mon guys. Whether or not there is cheating on EBay fees is between EBay and the seller.

What you pay for a coin, including S/H is what you pay. If that total is more than you think the coin is worth, you shouldn't bid it in. If that total is within your personal budget for that coin, then kwitchurbellyakin!

Of course, if there is some question about what you're getting, and the reputation/honesty of the seller is relevant, then you should be concerned when you find out that he/she is a cheat.

 

The real problem with these auctions is how they were shipped. Flopping about loosely, not even wrapped in paper, with no documentation besides the return address on the envelope.

 

I'm on the fence with high shipping charges and low bid prices. eBay and PayPal have taken advantage of the sellers' fees for doing business through them. I miss the days when you could sell an item for $500 and pay no more than $15 out the door for the listing and cost to ship the item. Now, you might as well say that eBay and PayPal gets 15% of the entire sale. They add up quick.

 

As a buyer, I sometimes prefer the high shipping charges and low cost auction. I consider the combined cost and bid only if the combined cost is at the level I want. When the shipping is too high, a lot of bidders stay away, keeping the auction price down for me. However, I do agree that it is frustrating to pay $10 or more for shipping when the seller uses an envelope.

 

LIke Jays-dad said, you have to consider the total charges. I think the buyers did that, that is why the winning bid was only $5. Why would someone only pay $5 when you can take the coin to any coin dealer and get about $15? Because all prospective bidders saw the shipping, and only bid up to $18 total.

What I am trying to say is if the seller had $2 shipping, you would not have won the auction for $5, it would have been more like $15, so don't fret the high shipping, since you got them total cost at a fair price.

 

I would agree. Some appear to think they are the moral compass of ebay. This buyer agreed with his bid/purchase, to the terms set by the seller. Period
Perhaps the buyer should read the complete listing next time before bidding and stop whining on his mistake in agreeing to the terms listed.

If the seller is suspected of cheating ebay out of fees, next time, just report the seller to ebay if you fill strongly enough about it, and do not bid.

 

Pretty simple, I would suggest that you give the seller a neg for shipping.
If you don't you become part of the perceived problems with/of ebay. IMHO

 

OK, you want to get technical. the buyer read, understood, and completed his part of the contract. I see no where where he stated that he as not planning on following through with his part of the deal. However, the seller clearly stated in his listing "no combined shipping". Guess what the seller did. He combined the shipping. He broke the contract. You may draw your own conclusions from there.

BTW, guess who pays for all those sellers circumventing the eBay fees? You and I pay or all eBay users! All eBay does is raise their fees to cover such events. Guess why their fees are so high.

 

RLM
Don't sounds like he combine the shipping to me according to the OP.

Seriously, I am not going to argue with you. You have your opinions, which you have openly expressed and I have mine, which I have openly expressed.
Thank you

 

I am sorry. You are correct and I misread it.

 

I love auctions that shift the price to shipping because they "turn off" many potential bidders for no good reason - so, often I get the item at a bargain.

 

Semantics, Very Interesting!!

Interesting!! I believe that the letter of the law was literally infringed by the sellers incomplete declaration. I believe you could contact PayPal, opening a claim for improper receipt, subsequently immediately advancing to a case. I would claim that I was charged for 2 shipments, only receiving one, thus at least due the charges paid for the second shipment.

How soon we forget the arguments that eBay advanced for mandating PayPal payments. Their argument was that there wasn't an option for payment refund when non-receipt was claimed, buyers demanded - they responded by offering PayPal, thus generating ~3.5%+ additional corporate income. These additional costs have been passed to the customer by virtual elimination of open auctions (i.e. now majority offering BIN or high initial bid WO reserve).

If you properly research, I recall that the reason for appreciably escalating the most recent auction fees was that eBay had increased the revenue stream in EU by a similar amount, without significant loss of sellers. They unsuccessfully gambled on similar U.S. results, and now must again increased revenues.

I believe it is quite obvious what the next mandate/justification is inclined to be: Mandated Free Shipping is in order, with BIN or, no reserve - high initial bid auctions, justified by their greatest buyer complaint factor. EBay receives their greatest profit from "Free Shipping" sales.

The initiator of this thread could have received the items he purchased for ~$2 additional/coin, with free shipping. He saved the ~$2.25 which eBay would have additionally charged the seller. I believe you'll find Buyers to be their own worst enemy, seemingly eliminating the last of the economical competitive auction sites, reducing the selections available, and the avenues for redress.

The choices are rapidly being diminished, as more sellers realize that a B&M facility has greater profitability, now that virtually all auction sites are increasing buyers fees, and reducing selection availability. I think you'll find EBay is generally the last expanded resource, competitive auction site. I'm certain they would rather emulate eBid who distances itself from complaints, has generally higher fees/item sold, considerably fewer categories, and controls the buyer/seller communications.

"Watch What You Ask For . . . ."

 

I heartily disagree. You cannot separate the auction price from the shipping fees. Any intelligent buyer will first look at shipping fees, then decide on what they can afford to bid on the auction. $5 is simply not a market price for the item, so therefor it can be assumed that potential buyers looked at shipping and came up with a total price less than $5 as a bid.

Auctions are always like that. Anyone who ignores shipping fees, when they are plainly listed, is a poor buyer. $5 was the winning bid ONLY because of the listed fees, and to try to get them lowered now is ridiculous. THe best outcome would be to simply cancel the auction and relist. If the seller has $3 shipping I will bid $10 right now, and I do not even collect American coins anymore.

 

Despite retracting the post you referenced, I tried to read your post. I got as far as "How soon we forget the arguments that eBay advanced for mandating PayPal payments. " Rather than trying to follow your convoluted logic thereafter, I will just assume the rest is just as valid as that line. eBay has never and will never mandate PayPal for payments.

BTW, it is now much easier to read without the fonts