Grading From a 12 y/o

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Numismatist47, Jul 29, 2010.

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  1. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    If I sent coins in for grading and slabbing, I think I would want someone more experienced than a 12 y/o grading my coins.

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  3. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    Very nice. make a post on the contest thread linking here.


    I without a doubt have to agree. sorry coinmaster1. i would not someone like me (24 years old) grading my coins. so someone half my age is pushing it way too far. in my inexperienced opinion, i feel that "professional" graders need a minimum of 30 years experience.
     
  4. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Well I've expressed my opinion about a minor running a contest here at CT. Essentially, the contests are a contract. The members running contests will give a prize, usually a coin(s), and the members who enter the contest must play the game. There is consideration from both parties. Therefor a contract, albeit verbal. All states protect minors from entering into contracts, and should they enter into one, written or verbal, the law voids the contract in favor of the minor.
     
  5. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    You make a strong point. I agree with you that the age of 12 is too young to run a contest, but I do not feel that 17 is too young. cman is 17 years old, and I would absolutely trust his agreement in a contract. As for the legal standpoint, it comes down to who would win in court. That is a tough call whether or not it is truely a legal binding contract. So in summary:

    I think the minimum age to run a contest should be 16 years old.
     
  6. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    However, most states consider 17 to be an age of consent.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    So now I've got to hire a lawyer to draw up legal papers so that I can run a contest on this forum?

    Way over the top...I know. :)

    Frankly, I can't understand the snit in the air.....
     
  8. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    No I'm not saying that at all, because when you run a contest here you have techically, entered a verbal contract with those who decide to enter your contest.

    You offer a prize, and the players play your game.

    A contract has consideration for both parties.

    So do the contests.
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    While I'm no lawyer, I do not think a contest here would be considered a valid contract since there is no "consideration" or "benefit" provided for the person running the contest.

    http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/contract.html

    Chris
     
  10. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    Sounds like we need a lawyer:

    What is the legal age of consent?
    Is a contest a binding legal contract?
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Gee, I thought contests were supposed to fun but when one starts mentioning verbal contract, minor, legal binding contract, etc. it begins to take all the fun out of things.

    Sheesh, this is just a friendly contest run by a member (young as he is) of this forum for other members of this forum. It's not like the prize patrol is gonna show up at your door.....
     
  12. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    I'm sure.

    I'm guessing #2 again.

    It's GOT to be #2.;)
     
  13. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    did anyone guess 12? :)
     
  14. cpm9ball

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    A contract must be enforceable to be valid, and since there is no way that you can force someone to participate in a contest, even if they have "officially" entered, no contract exists.

    Chris
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    As someone who started my professional career in numismatics at age 15 I have to say that I really like to see the young man making an effort and the parents encouraging him. What were you doing at 12? I have to say I have seen some pretty impressive kids on the show circuit over the years. All the criticism is to be expected to be directed towards someone who starts a slabbing company these days but just remember who you are talking to. Assume he is telling the truth guys until it's proven otherwise. Too much criticism can make this place seem unfriendly to the YN's and that's definitely counterproductive.

    I know we have had our fair share of trolls... and some epic ones at that... but just take him at his word until he proves something otherwise.
     
  16. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    hes right
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Here, here Matt. Well put......:)
     
  18. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    I didn't take anything the OP says serious before, but picking at a 12 year old?
     
  19. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Not picking at anyone.

    Just stating my opinion, you know kind of like TPG's state their opinion on coin grades.
     
  20. Jezzer

    Jezzer Junior Member

    These companies all have to start somewhere when they are trying to get set up. Someone has to be willing to take the first step of faith with them or they will never get anywhere. Besides, who knows how great he and his company will become over time and/or how much you will later be doing this =>:foot-mouth:<= if he and his company do become great.

    I think based on all the ruckus and naysaying that has been stirred up with Coinmaster1's NCAS company - I WILL be doing business with him in the foreseeable future. I WILL give him a leap/test of faith...after I secure a job in order to continue to fund my collection.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Age of consent is USUALLY 18, but it varies some state to state. There are also exceptions made for emancipated "teens" in most states. It is governed by stat law, not federal law.

    However, I do not know about a contest being a contract.
     
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