Edge letters

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Tuffjump, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. Tuffjump

    Tuffjump Junior Member

    I know a pic would be ideal but a description will have to do. I just received my 2010 unc sets and on my Filmore dollar the edge lettering was stamped abnormally close to the reverse of the coin making bumps on the rim at each letter and star........common?

    A side note. The quality of the coins in my two sets are sub-par at best. Will probably return.
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Within the last couple of weeks there was another thread that discussed the edge lettering transferring through to the rims.
     
  4. Yokozuna

    Yokozuna No Fear Of Change

    Wavy Edge Coin

    Does your coin look like this?

    Wavy Edge Fillmore 2010 D x.jpg Wavy Edge Fillmore 2010 D.jpg

    I think you have a coin just like several that I have. I was looking through 4 rolls of Fillmore "D" mint marks I got at the bank and wound up with 19 coins that have the same wavy edge. I think it must be a problem with that coin as I haven't seen it on any others.

    If the wavy edge is as strong as the photos above and you do want to return it, would you like to sell it to me so you can order a new set from the mint? I think they look kind of cool and now that I know it's not just the roll I found, I don't have to send in my coin to be graded and see if it's a error. I can pay you with PayPal or if you have a PayPal account, I'll just use my bank card to pay you. If that doen't work just let me know how you would like to be paid IF you would like to sell. I'll pay the cost of the set, shipping from the mint to you and the cost to ship it to me. I'll even give you a $5 bump to make it worth your while. :)

    I wound up with most of the wavy edges on the reverse, but I have some on the obverse. The photos above show the strongest "waves" of all of the coins. Take a look at my thread http://www.cointalk.com/t119436/

    Is your coin wavy on the "D" mint mark?

    Thanks, and let me know if you want to sell the sets to me.
    Ben
     
  5. Tuffjump

    Tuffjump Junior Member

    Yes Yokozuna the coins are the same. I also found a Abe Lincoln dollar with the same marks.Both of my coins are a P mint mark and I got them in the unc mint set. Thank you for the offer to buy and if I decide to sell I will contact you. I haven't given it THAT much thought as of yet seeing as I got the coins today. I haven't taken the coins out of the folder so I can't really see the edge that well. Are the stars and letters noticeably closer to the edge, not centered on the edge?
     
  6. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    yoko nice coins keep them.. when they hit the press in coin world they'll become popular..
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I got a couple like that out of the '10 mint set but didn't notice the edge lettering being any closer to the edge than normal. What I did notice (at least on mine) was that the edge lettering was a lot more clean and professional when compared to years past.
     
  8. Yokozuna

    Yokozuna No Fear Of Change

    It's easy to see that the edge letters are not centered on the coins I found so far. On the coins I found, both obverse and reverse, the waves are at the bottom of the stars and lettering. Some of them only show 3 or 4 of the stars and its almost like the edge lettering is not even all the way around the coin. I'm going to get another 4 rolls on Monday and see if I find the same thing. I'll let you know what I find.

    I'd love to have a P and D "set" of wavy edge coins, so My offer stands. Take all the time you want to decide. If it turns out that they are a true error, maybe we'll get rich! :) If it turns out they all have this problem, or it's really common, so be it. I'd love to find one with the letters past the rim of the coin! Now that would be really cool.

    Just don't return them if you decide you don't want them. Think of me first! I'll take a photo of all of the wavy coins I found and post it on here. It's kind of cool looking. I may order the set from the Mint to see if I get the same "errors."

    Thanks, again!

    Ben
     
  9. Tuffjump

    Tuffjump Junior Member

    I will not return the coins to the mint and will send them to you if I decide I no longer want them. I looked at another set and found the same "error?" along with another rim cud. That to me is unusual, the fact that I find the cud on quarters and the anomaly on dollars on at least two different sets. I've only been into error collection for just over a year and have had what I consider amazing success.

    10 smooth edge Washington dollars in the same roll I graded 5 1 ms-64--2 ms-65--1 ms-66 and a ms-67...I didn't open the rolls until 2009 and am still kicking my rear end.
    1 slipped edge lettering Polk dollar which I had slabbed...ms-67
    1 dropped letter on a Polk dollar just certified by Ken Potter and featured in an article in Numismaster.com
    several minor errors ( horse poop quarter, extra cactus quarter etc.)

    All this is to say until I find whats going on with this issue I think I'll hold.

    Good luck on your searching I'm going to the bank and pick up some dollar rolls and see if I can find more. I will keep you up to date as well.

    Great fun huh!
     
  10. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    Yoko, those wavy dollars sure look nice. Good pics to boot. Just as a side note to all interested, there has been a lot of discussion on edge lettering varieties on this forum. Since the lettering of these coins seem so variable, what in your mind would be considered a true "error?"
     
  11. Yokozuna

    Yokozuna No Fear Of Change

    That was my question in the original post http://www.cointalk.com/t119436/. I don't know enough about edge lettered coins to call the lettering causing a "wave" on the face of the coin an error. After my 2nd trip to the bank for rolls I now have 57 Fillmore $1 coins with the edge lettering not centered and 3 coins out of the 57 has the edge lettering pressed deep enough to cause the waves on both obverse and reverse with higher waves on the reverse and slight waves on the obverse. I also found the lettering to cause 1/2 of the waves on the obverse and 1/2 on the reverse of 22 coins and some coins with only a few stars causing waves on one area of the coin. About 75% of the coins have the waves on the reverse.

    I found:

    3 coins with waves on both sides.
    10 coins with strong waves on one side only that can be felt.
    15 coins with waves that you can see well, but not feel.
    22 coins with waves that are on 1/2 of the obv and 1/2 rev.
    7 with just a few waves (3 or 4) per side.

    To me, any process or mistake at the mint to make a single coin to differ from the original design would be an error. If it causes a batch or large number of the coins to have the exact same difference from the original design, I would think it's a variety, BUT because the edge lettering is different on each coin, I'm not sure what I would call these. That's why I asked if it was just common to the coin.

    These 3 have the largest waves. I set up the reverse photos with the coin turned so that the 2010 D is at the top of each coin.
    waves 1.jpg

    Waves on these 3 coins show on both sides, but, as you can see, obverse waves are much smaller.
    waves 2.jpg

    Ben
     
  12. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    If i had a dozen of these (like someone apparently does), i'd send one to ANACS to see what attribution they give it. The first one is likely to sell like a hot cake on Ebay.

     
  13. Tuffjump

    Tuffjump Junior Member

    As a side note I also found waves on the Abe dollar in my unc set.
     
  14. Yokozuna

    Yokozuna No Fear Of Change

    Amy and I went to the bank one more time today and asked for $100 in Fillmore Dollars. At first they said they only had $50, but then found a "New Box" that they just got in. I checked them and added 29 wavy edge coins to the count for a total of 86 coins. I found 2 more with the strong waves and the rest from light to only 2 to 3 waves per side. I also found 6 with the reverse die misaligned by about 1/2 of the flat edge of the coins reduced @ the 1 o'clock position with light waves also. ALL 86 coins have waves that you can see with the unaided eye.

    In the rolls from the new box I didn't find any waves that could be seen without a 20X loop.

    So... what do you think? It looks like I hit 6 rolls from a box with some heavy edge lettering problems. The new box seems to be normal, but I've only checked 2 rolls.

    Now, how do I send a coin for ANACS attribution? Just let me know what I need to do and it'll be sent tomorrow! Then it's look out eBay!

    You can send me an email with instructions at mooney.wormtail.padfoot.prongs@gmail.com Yeah, I know, it's a weird address, but I love the Harry Potter books.

    Thanks,
    Ben
     
  15. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    Others might want info on how to submit to ANACS so I'll put it here. Just go to http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/SubmissionForm.aspx and follow the instructions. BE SURE to pay the extra $$ for errors. If I had as many as you do, I would have a few slabbed and sell them on ebay before everyone else else does. And I'd keep the highest graded for my personal collection.

     
  16. Yokozuna

    Yokozuna No Fear Of Change

    Thank you for the info! I'll get the best 10 sent off tomorrow and let everyone know what they say. Wish me luck!

    Thanks, again!
    Ben
     
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