Anyone ever seen a MS70 Cent?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hunt1, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    I've never seen a US penny (cent) certified ms 70 by the leading graders, has anyone else?
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes, the 2003 MS-70 cent from PCGS (Since downgraded) As far as I know there are no existing MS-70 cents (except those treated with MS70)
     
  4. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Someone on CT once posted a pic of a certified Satin 70, forgot who it was. But, a Satin is not technically an MS, it's a low mintage, almost matte proof.
     
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That coin really had a crazy history. I don't know of any others graded MS-70.
     
  6. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I do not understand why satins are counted as MS, but that is where PCGS and NGC both list them. That means that there are at least 40 by PCGS.

    • 2005 SP70RD 18
    • 2005-D SP70RD 2
    • 2006 SP70RD 20
     
  8. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Do you have links that show this. Someone posted awhile ago that they classified the Satins as proof, but I didn't check.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  10. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Every SGS, NGSC coin is graded MS/PR-70 regardless of the denomination.
     
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  11. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    sgs, ngsc are not top grading companies sgs is a bunch o frauds.. ngsc ???who?? never heard of them.. there mass slabbing companies to turn a profit...chuck out ms 70's and pf70's to make money.. read up and studying is key..
     
  12. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    I have never seen a perfect 70, and I never will. Some may say 70, but they're not flawless. Look hard enough and you'll find the tiniest imperfection that keeps it from a 70...
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Are you referring to MS, SP, or both?
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    MS - the SP coins started out getting high numbers right from the get go.

    I guess I shouldn't be surprised really. It follows right along with the grading issues I continually rant about. And funny how the timing matches up perfectly too isn't it ;)
     
  16. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    I've got a couple solid MS-69 '88-D's and an '89-D that are close enough to 70 to call them possibilities.

    There are a lot of really high grade zincolns.

    All three of these coins are highly proof like by the way.
     
  17. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    BTW in the thread im looking for just ms not SP
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    At this point you are back to zero known.
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Zero know from NGC and PCGS. I am sure there are lots known form SGS, NNC, NEC, etc. There might even be some by ANACS and ICG.
     
  20. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    The timing matches up perfectly to what?
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    "the grading issues I continually rant about" - i.e. gradeflation.
     
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