Guess the Grade-----1941-S Jefferson Nickel NGC

G, Yes, I think it's mean, because I agree with Hamman.

 

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I do not see this as wear, this is the original surface of the planchet that did not flow upon striking. Pretty common occurrence.

 

Not really - I know you are doing a higher grade toned set, but it is your collection and I figured you can do what you want. Now all I did was google since I don't know much about varieties of nickels - is this a Large S? looks like I see the little notch that is on an ebay listing. But I truthfully do not know.

Oh yeah - my grade was a 65 also, but then I bumped it. While I see some of what doug is talking about I am not good enough to know the cause or the why. So I went with my first reaction upon seeing the coin.

 

It ain't the TPGs that convinced me of this, but rather studying coins in bags and rolls straight from the mint -- coins that never, repeat, never circulated and showed these same characteristics.

To be frank, I was going to say something very similar to you (i.e. surprised someone with your experience would say such a thing)....Mike

 

Oh Thank God somebody got it!



I think if Doug saw the coin in hand his opinion of the grade would change.

 

Mint set coins exhibit the same phenomenon. I maintain my position that what you're seeing are areas of incomplete strike.

 

An over-graded large S (MS). IMHO

 

so i was rght the forst 1800 years were wasted. anyways after your memory came back in the 1930;s you went back to collecting world gold? or am i off by a few years here and there

 

i am still worried where you saw those ms 70 coins. its actually scary coz even i havent seen any ms 70 pre modern coins

 

MS-65 -- but who i am to know anything?? right?

 

dont worry we are all students here ( emperor spock and his royal court including grand vizier grandpa GD) i really cant speak for others

 

So, we still do not have a definite answer yet?

 

See post #26 - MS-65 Large "S"

 

Yea BR549 it's a 65 Large S. Look at post #26 of LeHigh's.
I think that is a correct grade. The hit on the cheek keeps it from a 66 plus the hit in the hair.

I dont think that that is wear enough as even in the photo's you can see the luster on the coin.

LeHigh is the Large S a hard one to find? Is there much if any premium on these yet? And do they put this one in Registry Sets?

 

Here is what Bernard Nagengast says about the 1941-S in THE JEFFERSON NICKEL ANALYST

"1941-S if often seen with an off-luster (halo-effect) and a weak strike. Gem fully struck are very rare but are very attractive when found. Many 1941-S coins have a grayish, circulated appearance. Rolls are quite rare, and are usually substandard. I have never heard of any hoards of this issue.

A new, large S mintmark punch was used for later production, and on all San Francisco copper nickel coins after 1942. It appears that less than 10 dies were used, and the 1941-S is very rare in uncirculated"

While Doug is convinced that the coin is AU, I am forced to defer to the professional graders at NGC who have seen this look before from 1941-S Jeffersons.

 

everything is an opinion there are no definite answers.

 

Thanks for the info LeHigh.
I'm off to do some searching for one