I recently bought an unsearched bank sealed roll of buffalo nickels. when I got them I opened them to see what I got. All the coins had missing dates which where either filled/ground off, worn down or had some kind of acid dripped on the date. My Question is, Does an unsearched-bank sealed roll of coins mean that the seller has no idea what is in the roll? OR did I get ripped off because the seller put in the coins he/she wanted me to have?
Unsearched rolls off of Ebay are some of the biggest scams there is. Granted there may be some that are unsearched but it's all hype. If they had acid they were searched by someone at sometime. The best bet is if you can find someone selling of Grandpa's collection that doesn't know anything about coins and just want's the green paper money they can spend in a store
A while ago, someone posted an ebay seller's "buy" page. He had purchased bulk wheats and bulk Indian head cents, old bank paper rolls and a roller/crimper. What he was selling was "unsearched bank rolls" that had Indian head and wheat cent ends. It looked legit in the old paper rolls but a definite scam. He was getting upwards of $25/roll for them.
Think about how the seller would know that it was all buffs if he/she hadn't looked at each coin. Unsearched? Well, since you bought that line, let me tell you about a wonderful bridge I have for sale in New York City. Or, perhaps, you would prefer some nice ocean-front lots from my Arizona holdings.
Forget the swamp land. I have an unsearched roll of 1909S VDB cents for sale. All of them are PF-70. I know they are even though I didn't look at them because nobody ever did since the roll is unsearched! Bid with confidence. 42% feedback rating. Fast shipping from Shanghai.:hail:
Generally, unsearched means the seller did not invest their time to search the roll to see if there was anything in it worth keeping. There could be almost anything in the roll.
Boonman, Don't believe 95% of the claims that are made by SleazeBay sellers, and make sure that someone, other than the seller, can verify the other 5%. Chris
As far as "bank sealed rolls" go, you can buy coin tubes at any WalMart or online and NF String and Sons webpage has a hand roll sealer you can buy for $2.95 + S/H. So do not fall for the "bank sealed" line. Anyone can seal coin tubes. It sounds to me like someone was experimenting with acid redating Buffalos and you got his practice pieces.
This is how I found out I got ripped off. When I got the roll I opened it to see if I got anything good, then I saw not a single coin had a date. All I thought was "bummer bad luck I guess I just try again with buying another roll". So i'm looking through the sellers items and I noticed something a little weird, there where 10 different listing's of the same exact 'Unsearched Bank Sealed Buffalo Nickel Rolls' rangeing from 19.95 to 199.95. Long story short I gave him negitive feedback and then he sent me a rude message and blocked me because I figured out his scam.
My buddies in China can hook you up with some nice uncirculated MS-70 PCGS CERTIFIED MISSING LEG 1937-D BUFFALOES FOR ONLY $8999.99 EACH!!!! ACT NOW SINCE THERE ARE ONLY SIX WAREHOUSES FULL LEFT!!!!
Boonman, Consider this a downpayment on your numismatic education. Some people pay a WHOLE LOT more to learn the same lesson.
I hard alright luck buying an OBW roll once but I've never ventured into the unsearched area of rolled coins. Those dealers have wording in their ad that usually covers anything that goes wrong just in case. In other words if a block of wood is planted in the roll they are not responsible. I don't know if all of them are ripoffs or not, I just stay away
I have bought some rolls on eBay and never truly expected them to be "unsearched", but I hoped to find some wheats to fill holes in some of the folders I have and perhaps a variety or overlooked error. Honestly, the only time I felt ripped off was when I believed I was getting a 1926 S Merc Dime on one end. It turned out to be a 1926 Cent and a 1944 S Merc Dime on the other. Wording was ambiguous. But I did learn to ask questions. A seller who won't tell you exactly what the item is or does not respond is not worth buying from. I also expect an honest seller to accept a return of the item. There are some good people out there who want to sell so they can buy and this is a good place to reach a lot of people. In my humble opinion anyway. Learn from the experience.
Agreed with one exception. I would not expect a refund on unopened bags or rolls that you have opened. Or on coins that have been removed from their holders. If you open it, it is impossible for you to return what was sent, an unopened item.
Of course, the item must be returned exactly as sent for there to be a refund. I mean how else is the seller assured the item is the one he sent ? Tampering with the packaging on some items changes the item. ie coin slab, unsearched roll, mint sealed package, etc. In that case, you open it, it's your to keep. Fair trading must work both ways. Gary
That Nova Eborac that I purchased and posted a little while back. After I took it home and performed diagnostics on it, I realized that it was a probable replica; a very good replica at that. Part of the diagnostics involved measuring it with a vernier caliper, weighing it, scoping it, and shining angular light on the planchet. I was only able to perform those tasks after taking it out of the holder. Though it was an in-person transaction and not an online auction, needless to say, the dealer very begrudgingly took it back... Then again, the specimen was $500, I had done business with him before, and I believe he wanted to maintain a future business relationship.
