Anyone else hate lamination??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by black-dog7315, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. black-dog7315

    black-dog7315 Junior Member

    c.jpg a.jpg b.jpg Hello everybody. There are a lot of people that don't believe in the 1914/3 overdate, but this coin should be proof enough. I've had it for awhile, and every time I look at it I can't see anything but the lamination on it. I'm aware that this is a problem that plagues buffalo nickels. It comes from an improper alloy mix, and you can actually see the copper on the Indian's cheek. Does anyone else have a coin like this that bothers you? Thanks for your comments.
     
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  3. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    On high grade coins or keys or semi-keys it could be very problematic and drastically lower the values. But, other than that I love 'em...
     
  4. black-dog7315

    black-dog7315 Junior Member

    In your opinion, does it hurt this coin? And if you get it slabbed, will they automatically label it as having lamination? I admit that I do like diecracks, dieclashes, and cuds. -I think that they add character to a coin. They also link the coin to a certain die pair, so you see other coins that match it out there. I'm just not that sure about lamination. Thanks for your reply.
     
  5. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    I think it looks cool, like the Indian has war paint.
     
  6. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Value wise yes, but to an error collector thats a very nice lam.. The thing to remember is, when an error collector purchases an error coin, he/she is paying for the error and not the coin (most of the time)...
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I still think they're pretty cool!

    Chris
     

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  8. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    A gem Bu one is all I would have graded.
    but 1914 Buffalo I am not sure I would spend the money to have it graded.
    But it is a keeper anyway 4 sure!
     
  9. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Gotta agree, it's a nice error whether you care for lam errors or not but as far as the overdate is concerned, that is debatable. Maybe even in hand you won't be able to see it. Certainly not worth the price of having it graded, IMHO.

    This new format is a bit tricky, I hope I uploaded the right pics! :kewl:

     

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  10. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    I'm not a fan of laminations either, with a few exceptions. I like them if they fell off and were struck through the coin somewhere else. Like this 1908-S, where you can see the AM in America has some of the lamination flap struck through it.

    http://indiancenterrors.shutterfly.com/pictures/50

    In general, I think 95% of them decrease the value of the coin.

    Here's an example of a beautiful off center indian cent in MS64. It would have sold for $300 without the lamination.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1902-INDIAN-HEAD-1C-MS64RB-ANACS-OFF-CENTER-LAMINATION-/320558346522?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4aa2c4311a

    But here is a lamination on an Indian from my collection. Aside from being huge and dramatic, you can see two partial dates. http://indiancenterrors.shutterfly.com/pictures/121
     
  11. black-dog7315

    black-dog7315 Junior Member

    I was starting to wonder if anybody felt the same way. I think that in some cases, like when the lamination is missing, or is still there and just looks very dramatic, the coin could end up looking pretty cool. "But most of the time" the coin just looks like it has cancer or something, and it definately lowers the value 95% of the time. - I think i'll post some dieclashes next. I have a few really nice ones. Thanks everbody.
     
  12. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    I'm on board with you black-dog. I look at most laminations and think 'oh, too bad the planchet had that defect, it could have been a really nice coin'.
     
  13. black-dog7315

    black-dog7315 Junior Member

    That's exactly right robbudo. It's like pulling up in a Corvette with the fender tore up. People don't say "Wow, nice Corvette", they say "What happened to your fender"? "That's a shame".
     
  14. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    LOL - GREAT analogy, and dead on.

     
  15. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    lol, never thought of it like that...
     
  16. black-dog7315

    black-dog7315 Junior Member

    jello - I'll probably have this coin graded since it is a 14/3, but if it was just a regular VF+ 1914 buffalo, I wouldn't dream of it. - And cpm9ball, I think that your coin is very cool.
     
  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    14/13 I wish U luck!!!!!
     
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