Plays with axial lighting

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ksparrow, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I think it was Goodman's book that mentioned camera vibration.
    Anyway, I got a wireless remote shutter release when I bought my camera so that I could remove that as a possible source of vibration.
    The other possible source mentioned was the mirror flipping out of the way on a DSLR. I haven't dealt with that but at the moment it doesn't seem to be an issue. But if I want I think(?) I can delay the shutter for several seconds after the mirror moves. I know my wife's camera has that option but mine is less expensive.

    BTW nice image.
     
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  3. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    Have you had any luck with slabbed coins and your axial setup?
     
  4. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    No, everytime I try to use the setup with slabbed coins I get all these bizarre reflections. I think Kanga had the same experience.

    The remote release is an excellent idea. I usually use the timer so the camera has a chance to settle down before the shutter trips, but I had a window air conditioner and fan going at the same time in the room, and I think that's what did it. Also, the shutter speed was about 1/10 second.
     
  5. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Let's see if this one is a little better. The blue head makes me want to nickname this coin "Miz Smurf."

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  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    and here is a new Trade Dollar:

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  7. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Yep, same problem.
    I'll play with it somemore but I don't expect positive results.
    The two surfaces of the slab (outer and inner) cause all sorts of reflectivity probelms.
     
  8. richarrb

    richarrb Junior Member

    I have learned alot from your thread when taking pictures thanks again!
     
  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I love what you get!

    Unfortunately, I've become frustrated trying to duplicate what you're achieving.

    This is about as good as I get and it's still not doing justice to the coin.

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    They're good enough for photos, but they don't grab you like your axial lighting does.
     
  10. mumu

    mumu Junior Member

    You really do get a fantasitc 3d effect and fantastic light distribution but you do also notice a little warping and fuzzinessthru the cheaper non optic quality glass. Great reference point though.
     
  11. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Hi Marshall, are you using an axial setup too? (nice large cents, BTW!)
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I try, but my setup isn't too stable and keeps falling apart. Combine that with unwanted reflections from the stand or even the camera and I'm pulling my hair out most of the time. I tend to resort to the old two source direct lighting.

    But I know that axial is the best solution if I can get it stable and find a way to avoid unwanted reflections. It's just frustrating getting there. I thik I need a copy stand so I can get more working room between the lens and the holder. My tripod just doesn't allow room for my glass to hinge properly.
     
  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter


    You're welcome!
     
  14. mumu

    mumu Junior Member

    Marshall I think your pictures are good just needs a slight tweak on the lights. It looks like a little more light is coming from below the coin. Also I might go one step or 2 faster on the shutter speed as it looks like youre a tad overexposed.
     
  15. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    A copy stand is definitely superior.
    It gives you so much more room to work with.

    I had trouble with a reflection from the upright on the copy stand so I had my wife make a sleeve for it from black corduroy.
    That took care of that.

    Make sure your light source is the ONLY one.
    Windows or other lamps can be interference sources.
    Shiny surfaces around your setup can cause problems.

    Sometimes I have the overhead lights on during setup.
    Then I forget to turn the off before the photo session.
    I REALLY hate myself after ruining an hour's work because of something stupid like that.
     
  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    My copy stand has a chrome plated upright, so I draped a piece of the dark blue velvet I use for a background around it to prevent reflections. My overhead lights are on a dimmer.
     
  17. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Really nice images.
    Have you ever tried dark toned proofs or just proofs with color?
     
  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Errrr no, I actually don't own any!
     
  20. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Get some and image em', and post it here pronto. :goofer:
    Fantastic images my friend.
     
  21. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Well I thought I'd been trying the axial lighting and I just discovered that when I removed the glass, the lighting didn't change. Somehow I still got direct lighting from background/reflective lighting.
     
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