Hot Springs Doubled Dies!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LEG END, Jun 18, 2010.

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Is this a doubled die?

  1. What class is it in, if so?

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  2. As it unique among US coins?

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  3. What values could it attain if it is a doubled die?

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  4. Did you buy an early release box after reading the thread?

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  1. LEG END

    LEG END Junior Member

    Glad for the replies

    I have scads of MDD pennies, some nickels, lots of dimes and such. What set this one apart was that it was cantilevered, and the travel of the doubling extends to the A preceding it. Another of the series is doubled in arka"NSAS" all the way. One of the challenges in attributing incuse is that any slop or chatter in the strike is going to show as MDD. So I am careful not to call that a doubled die. However, some of these strikes also have an effect which makes the letters look like block letters. This could well be a function of the same dynamics which cause those pesky metal flow lines at the edges and sometimes toward the center of the coin. IDHair PM me and I'll send it to you for some good pics. I reserve the right to add an I to the description, for incuse, if this pans out.
     
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  3. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Send your coin here had have it checked out by an expert!

    www.doubleddie.com

    It is only:kewl: $6.00
    Plus you maybe noted in Coin World
     
  4. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder


    yeah I concur.
     
  5. LEG END

    LEG END Junior Member

    Jello thx and regards! I kinda like the informality here, but after all, kudos are what it's about after all.
     
  6. onecoinpony

    onecoinpony Member

    Chris- the box dates with the inspector stamp #, and time, are a point of reference for finding similar errors. With the LP2 ddr you could almost tell which errors might come out of a certain box given that information. Certainity? No. Very helpful? Yes. For sure with the LP2 box info, it told you which boxes probably had zero errors, and thus not to buy those dates on the secondary market.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    When the contractor's employees fill those boxes, they have no idea whether there are errors or not, and quite frankly, if the employees of the shipping company spent their time making sure that errors were in certain boxes (or not), the company would probably lose the contract with the Mint for not shipping on a timely basis. Besides that, the Mint ships the coins by the truckload. How can anyone tell which production run from which dies is where?

    This mistaken belief comes up all the time, and a perfect example was when the Wisconsin High Leaf and Low Leaf quarters came out. Ebay sellers were conning people into believing boxes with certain dates contained the varieties, but they didn't.

    Chris
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

  9. onecoinpony

    onecoinpony Member

    I disagree, I've read the results on other forums.
     
  10. LEG END

    LEG END Junior Member

    better pics coming

    a member is going to do better pics, so stay tuned.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Sorry LED END. I can't do any better with the file you sent me.
    Is that file just the way it came off the camera without any editing?
    I was thinking the post edit to make it work with CT hosting was messing with the image. I was wrong. Sorry.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Without better photos, I would judge it MD. The "S" doesn't appear to be rotated or tilted in any way. The flattened western area of it appears to be consistent with MD. I am not sure where your "incluse" falls into your explanation.

    I really think you would be happier to send it to Potter or someone to verify your suspicions, as I feel you are so set on your answer ( and I understand , as you have it in hand), that you might not get the positive response you would like. No hard feeling intended, as we are all just opinion as it stands. Good Luck.

    Jim
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Obviously, you didn't read Coin World.

    Chris
     
  14. onecoinpony

    onecoinpony Member

    Obviously you don't read other forums (ie the biggest TPG). I personally have bought large quantities of unopened LP2 boxes, and found the box date recommendations, from other members, to be extremely accurate.

    You need to reread my post, I stated specifically LP2 errors, nothing else!
     
  15. LEG END

    LEG END Junior Member

    New pics forthright.

    And I will NOT bungle it this time....or I will try again after that. Never over till it's over.:smile Then, Jim, I think your suggestion to send it to an authority is bang-on. I have dealt with John at Doubles before. Greatest source around, me thinks.
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    This might be a fraction larger.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Oh! You mean the Kool-Aid stand!

    Chris
     
  18. onecoinpony

    onecoinpony Member

    According to you, PCGS and it's dealers and posters are not credible? Boy, it takes all kinds.
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Not everyone drinks Kool-Aid. So, you shouldn't be putting words into other people's mouths. You go ahead and play with all of your little, white boxes.

    Chris
     
  20. onecoinpony

    onecoinpony Member

    I see you avoided replying to the issue. Nice try to cover up. You really sound like the Kool Aid drinker. Not everyone's out to get you. Wait... did you hear something outside your window? Wooooo
    LMAO!
     
  21. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Not every member of the PCGS forums is a Kool-Aid drinker, but I must admit that a lot are. The dealers and posters are pretty reliable, and I would take their word for a lot of things, not concerning TPG's.

    Now to the white box ordeal. The LP2's are a very good example of what the date of the box means. The date of the box on my LP2's didn't match up with those of the errors, so I sold those puppies, I sold them good, and broke even. (I was hoping they would be like the LP1)
    Other people got lucky, and got the dates with the errors inside, and they sold them.
    Do I think every single box had those errors in it? Nope. Do I think many of them did? HECK YEAH! And it was proven by the many people who got the boxes, opened the rolls, and sold the error, or sold the boxes with the date showing as a unsearched error roll, basically.

    In response to this thread, my first impression was, oh great, another mess up by the mint. Remember all the errors last year!? I just get sick of hearing about errors to be honest, although error collectors must love it.
    I'm not familiar with the characteristics of MD or DD, but I will say that Larry's photos show it a lot better!
     
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