Its been too long since I've bought any of these, so when I saw them my itchy trigger finger slipped and bought them both. Guessing the grades should be easy (if you know me at all), but guess the Overton as well! I have a good guess for what each is, but I want y'all to confirm if you will.
Going XF45 on both - going with O-110 on 1817(pictures too small to see if triple segment present) and O-105 on 1829. Nice additions.
The 29 is O-105 and I would grade it EF-45. I cant really make out the details on the 1817 but would grade it @ EF-40. I would like to measure the devices on that before causing a storm. Steve
The first coin looks to me to be XF40, the second XF45-- both have great skin and the right look. Congrats!
Strikeluster, I agree with your O-#'s. PCGS graded the 1817 a 40, and the 1829 a 45. From the pictures, I think the '17 is undergraded, but I will make a better determination, and post better pics, when I get them in hand.
Physics Fan, Im reallly at a disadvantage here. I perfer to perfom all my diagnostics with a ruler. I dont feel comfortable assigning Overton #s without my ruler to measure the devices and date etc. I love both of your coins by the way. The 1817 is an excellent example of a condtion rarity for 1817. It commands a premium price. Steve
I generally only use a ruler on the really tricky ones. Usually, relative positions of letters, stars, dentils, and devices is quite sufficient to assign a variety - there are very few marriages where the dies are so close that a ruler is necessary for me. I guess its because I do most of my practicing with pictures online, where a ruler is not an option.
The two lower arrow shafts on the 1829 look as if they had been die lapped into oblivion. So it is an 0-105a. Is that a difference? Reference is the fourth edition (Parsley), some swear the third edition is better.
Thank for sharing them! Both are great Bust half's! 1817 maybe the rare type of the 2! :kewl:if I had it in hand I maybe able to tell you more!!
Those are great coins, I hate not having my Overton book with me, but I think they are 50 and 45 respectively, but that PCGS probably called the 17 XF instead of AU.
They both arrived Thursday, but I didn't get a chance to photo them until this afternoon. Tell me what you think now, with larger pictures!