My well-known fascination with prooflike coinage has led me to watch the auctions for foreign prooflike coinage, although my main focus is a prooflike US type set. Many countries made prooflike coinage on purpose, specially polishing the dies and making intentional prooflike sets (Canada being the obvious example). I have little to no interest in these prooflikes. I am far more intrigued by the accidental prooflike - the coin that was struck as a natural part of operations. As far as I know, Mexico did not intentionally make prooflike sets - and there are only 3 prooflike Peso's graded in the NGC census (for the entire series, 1905 to present). The coin I am about to show you is the only one graded for 1965, and currently rests in a MS-64 PL slab. So, comments? Show us your foreign prooflike coins!
I feel the same way about proof coinage. Hate things that were meant to be collected. Proof like on the other hand very cool. Like yourmexican piece. The only exception I have to the rule is WLHs becasue they dont come in PL in the circulation strikes and its one of my favorite designs, and also in a world series I collect that has a very heavy Matte finish and so would never get proof like.
Nice looking coin... I have a few 'accidental', as you put it, prooflike coins. I too have always been interested in these, and keep my eyes open for nice examples. Here is a 1965 Mexico Peso, similar to yours, but less prooflike, and lower grade, and a Peru 1912 1/2 dinero. Two of my nicer prooflike coins.
Super prooflike.... absolutely beautiful.... I'm having trouble keeping myself from drooling over the sight of that 1858 Victoria. Sadly someone put a hole through this one... I found it in the 25cent bin at my local coin shop.
For some reason I always overlook world coins, some of them are so beautiful. That 64PL you posted is one heck of a coin. Looks to me like I'm going to do some online shopping.
It came a couple of days ago, and I took pictures this afternoon. Teletrade's pictures were actually quite good, but here are mine:
Thanks. In hand, it has a nice strong cameo effect. I couldn't capture that in the photos, so Bob Campbell will be getting this beauty sometime in the future.
I just bought a toned 1921 Dos Pesos this week. For a bit more they had a prooflike but I just couldnt pull the trigger Thought of this thread as I was mulling it over.
NGC graded but it is an AU58. I can PM you the ebay link if you like, it's still available. It's a buy it now of 195$
If you didnt spot it then maybe its not prooflike enough for you. Its not deep but from the ones Ive seen its much more cameo than the usual: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290437441562&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching edit: Hmm looking back I may have misunderstood your question on whether NGC determined it prooflike. I assumed that it was assumed that it was not designated prooflike as so few of the world coins are.
Ah, yeah, I prefer to have them already labelled as such by NGC. That takes out all the ambiguity of a photograph. Very few make the cut, but the ones that do are generally quite strongly mirrored.
Sometimes they seem to be really hard on the world PLs. In this case the auction bidders werent as hard as PCGS http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=3004&Lot_No=21980#photo
That is a gorgeous coin! The simple explanation for PCGS' grade is: they don't designate PL on anything but Morgan and Canadian coins. I don't know why, I can't explain, I think its stupid. But, they don't. Only NGC will designate PL's on other series - which is why my collection consists of all NGC coins. Funny how that is, my Franklin collection is completely NGC, my prooflike collection is all NGC.... I'm noticing a trend.
I ended up buying this coin. I bought another mexican 2 pesos with some nice toning in ngc AU55 but it is severaly overgraded with horrible scratches and rim nicks and a shot right in ladys mouth which makes her look awful. SO its going back. I'll post pics of the one im returning later tonight so you mexican experts can confirm I am doing the right thing. With bing and a slight price break from the seller, the one in this auction came out to just a few bucks more and I think it looks awesome with that semi proof like fields look.
