Which one and why? 1964 Jefferson Nickel

Although toning for me is not a factor, the strike does become an issue. Coin #2 has by far superior strike characteristics than coin #1. I would grade coin #1 @ MS-65 and coin #2 at MS-65+

Coin #1 $20
Coin #2 $60

note:if coin #2 is a SMS then you don't have enough with $500

 

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I chose coin #1 wich i would grade ms66 fs.
Coin number two although dripping eye appeal would maybe go ms64, and the steps look mushy. I am positive that i would not spend 500 on either one. Jefferson nickels are just not my thing.

 

I am going to say coin 1 is MS 60 and I would pay 25 cents
Coin 2 is MS 62 and I would pay $1.00
I guess you would have to add in the cost of grading to each, but I would buy neither.

 

#1 for me as the coin looks cleaner to me.
#2 has a better strike but I don't like that picture as it looks like a proof. The eye appeal is there though.
Prices: #1 - $20, #2 - $10 (this one could change a lot in hand possibly) would buy both at that price in this scenario.

 

Coin#1
MS-65 = $10.00
Coin#2
PR-67 Cameo = $35.00
If coin #2 is an
SMS67 Cameo = $3500.00 or more

 

I take that to mean that you would never purchase a 1964 Jefferson Nickel than as these two coins are at the upper echelon of quality for the date/mm. The 1964 Jeffersons are common as dirt since over 1 billion were minted but very few are of a high enough quality to end up in slabs. The current populations in MS65/MS66/MS67 are 162/114/7. If that is what you mean by common, then yes, they are common.

The spirit of this thread was to pretend that you were a registry collector of Jefferson Nickels with $500 to spend and you had to select on of the two coins offered. It was meant to challenge the grading skills of the Cointalk membership in a fun way.

While I understand that you personal standards for collecting coins are extremely high, that should not preclude you from engaging in a hypothetical exercise. Why bother? Because discussing grading scenarios helps people learn about grading.

 

i believe coin 2 deserve ms 67 it has better detailing on the monticello rev.. and nice toning... coin one looks ms 62-3

 

The population for PCGS is 18 I believe for the 64SMS Jefferson. I also believe that the SMS has squared rims. This coin is struck really well with what looks like nice dies, the edges would make me wonder about the SMS designation. It might be cameo, but with those hits I don't know how it could grade that high. Does the rim seem a little off at 2 o'clock on the reverse?

 

I would say-

MS66 @ $30.00
MS65 @ $20.00

 

I know that I'm supposed to put myself in the shoes of a registry collector, but that's unbelievably hard for me. Frankly, my dear, I just don't give a damn about conditional rarity.

Regardless, I chose coin #1. It has a much more balanced look, and will fit in well with the rest of my imaginary registry set. :kewl:

 

lol

 

I would take one because it has no toning. You can use it still for gumballs. The second one is toned. I hate toned coins

 

I like number 2 better because to me it's just a better stuck Jefferson! You can see on the reverse under the triangle especially that it's a very nice 64. You can see it on the doors specifically! You can also see it on the obverse with the lettering, it is clearer and very tight, or well struck! as far as the toning goes, I just don't know but between the two I would definetly go with #2

 

if the coin below didnt get a star than there is no way that jefferson deserves a star

 

Just for the particular situation what would you choose? I stated myself that I wouldn't buy either coin, I still played along though.
It is obvious to you and me why we wouldn't buy the coins, Doug, but just like Paul said, this exercise will help members better understand situations like this.

I'm pretty sure people are thinking at the moment, "As for Doug's post, why
bother?"

So Doug, one coin in this hypothetical situation, and what would it be?

 

lol. I chose coin #2 because I have found something like #1 in pocket change. Actually, I've found a '60 just like that as well. (found a 59,58,54-D, and a 53-D with those details but some black corrosion spots). I'd grade coin #1 an MS-64 and coin #2 an MS-65. For coin #1 I'd give $.05 since I found one in circulation. For coin #2 I'd give $5-10 although I probably wouldn't buy it.
I'd put that money towards a pre-1900 coin instead. :goof:

 

To all you guys finding registry quality Jefferson Nickels in your pocket change, can you please send them to me?

 

I am in no way a toner expert or collector, so this is just my opinion, but I think I've accidentally created that effect before by spilling coffee on a coin!:goofer:

 

Saying a coin should not get a star based on the snubbing of a coin from another series is not a reliable way to apply the designation. That said, the Roosevelt in question has spotted mottled toning that is an acquired taste. No way do I give that Roosevelt a star and I have long since acquired the taste for toned coins.

 

Dimefreak you have dark ear-wax color going around your coin, and then on the far right of your coin it is nearly black. Not to mention the splotchiness of the toning.
Many other things need to be taken into consideration such as what the luster is, and of course the reverse of the coin, and how full the torch is, and what kind of details are on the reverse and if there is any toning on the reverse.
Your comparison to the nickel in this thread is like comparing an apple to an orange.