I was just wondering how many legit ones are automatically called fakes, after all we all know that there is only one, right??? IMO if there was one made, there is a chance there are others. But they may have just been dismissed as fakes and discarded.
Only one what? There are about 20 copper 1943's and about 40 1944 steels. BTW, the 1944-S steel (only one known) is widely believed to have been made by a mint employee on purpose.
Looks like the coloring is wearing off. I'm seeing a greyish color bleeding thru. Maybe thats just rust all over a steel cent. I'll be waitin...
Very Strange Instructing a machine that pounds out multiple items per second must be very obedient to do it just once.:hammer:
Possibility vs Probability The wonderful and painful differences are profound. It is certainly POSSIBLE that you can find something that millions have looked for and never found. It is PROBABLE that you actually have one of the thousands of fakes produced since the first time a copper 1943 was included in a red book and the unscrupulous community saw an opportunity to get the money from the naive. You have already eliminated one type of common fake with magnetic testing. This was the simplest fake to make because all you had to do was electroplate a Zinc 1943. Another way is to alter the date (usually a 1948) and now you have a fake with the proper weight and non-magnetic. As coin pros became proficient at identifying fakes, the scum of the earth kept making ever more sophisticated fakes in response. Molds and presses were used to keep getting the edge and it always worked... for a while. Then the method of identification would follow and the cycle starts again. The latest is use of sophisticated lathes to make nearly undetectable duplicates of the dies and press modern replicas by the Chinese. Just be aware that people in the business have been dealing with this particular scam for over half a century now and skepticism is the initial reaction to another of the long series of discoveries of another 1943 copper cent. I suggest you assume that it's a fake with the caveat that you want to KNOW that it's a fake before dismissing it. This way you won't get too excited prematurely because of the POSSIBILITY or too dissappointed if PROBABILITY RULES. I'm sure everyone on here (well, most anyway) hope you have found a real, honest to God, 1943 Copper Cent from the US Mint. But it's right next to finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in probability.
There is such a thing called taking a machine in hand. You can make the machine do exactly as you demand...
I think the chances of being real are not good... more like one in a million: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA
There are at least two problems with the text I put in bold. The first is that the probability is so high against the piece being genuine as described that to think it likely fake without inspection is going with substantial odds. The second is that this isn't a case of "without any knowledge whatsoever", but in reality is a case of experience with this "find" from the many dozens of others who have come onto various boards over the years with similar finds.
I realize that, but the comment I was writing about stated that it was "insane" to think the piece was not a genuine, as issued US Mint product. That was what I was addressing.
Sorry Charlie, but that doesn't look right at all. Save your time and money, just take it to a coin show and ask some of the dealers there. good luck anyways, but I will list my reasons. 1. The font on In God We Trust don't look right. 2. His eye don't look right. 3. The coloring looks awful, forget that it don't look right it looks awfully bad. $. His beard don't look right either. 5. His suit where the buttons would go don't look right. 6. On the reverse, the lettering don't look right. 7. I've been wrong before, sometimes you just can't tell by pics, but this time I think I'm right, good luck and do let us know, please Oh just a cheap suggestion that you may have tried already but take another 1940's Lincoln and place them like a sandwich and see if there's any difference. good luck!!
i agree, when i first seen the pictures, i couldn't pin it down to what didn't look right. i guess its because pretty much all the coin is not right... send it in if you believe its legit, because thats were it has to go anyway.
That is a good fake, but it is a fake. Try comparing it to this one http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1136&Lot_No=2444. The most obvious difference to me is the tip of the wheats.
In real life the detail are more sharp. i have compared with a 1955 wheat penny, and 1942 copper penny it look the same, the fonts, the tie, the tip of the wheats everything look exactaly the same even the word in god we trust. Anyways i think it is real.. so i am gonna go to my local coin dealer and let them inspect for themself. This is not a fake i know for sure. But i am gonna get it check anywayz. Also the color is off because this penny never been clean, the dark color are from its orginal wear and age, i found the 1942 with the exact color until i clean it then it look more like new and brighter color. I dont want to clean the 1943 copper penny cause i heard if you clean it, it is no longer an antique.
Just send it off & get it checked out by NGC, ANAC, pr PCGS if you believe still it to be real. Keep us posted. Good Luck!