I think I have a problem (Camera/Computer Different Pictures)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tmoneyeagles, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I have a problem and I just realized it. The photos in my camera are different than the photos that get uploaded.
    I mean they are two different photos every time!
    I recently uploaded two different sets of pics on my Toned Closet Collection thread, and when I looked at the camera at the originals, the coins look so different. The photos in my camera are better, 100 times better! They show everything that my uploaded photos don't. The color is completely different, as are the luster and the details.
    Is this a camera problem? Uploading problem? Your input would really help me out here, I can't believe I haven't even noticed this. If this has been the case on all my photos, I might not even need a new camera after all, because the photos in my camera are wonderful. But how do I get the photos in my camera, on my computer, without them changing?
     
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  3. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    T$Money..

    Sounds like you need to make sure your editing color setting software is the same as your camera color settings.. like RGB1998 is what I use for the same color profiles.

    You can always profile both camera and monitor as well for the same colors. Look in the camera manual for color settings and select RGB 1998 then go to your computer and search for color settings (usually in the systems folder) change to RGB 1998 as well. Upload and you should see a difference. (5% of the time it is not your camera...in general.

    Hope this helps.

    RB
     
  4. Strikeluster

    Strikeluster New Member

    Funny Photos

    I have to take a lot of pictures of things at work and just bought a new camera that is doing that exact same thing to me. Look fine in review and like hell on print out. Your not alone with this issue my friend. I think I will return the camara.
     
  5. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    How exactly do I do that?
    There is no way to see that on my camera or on my editing software.
    It doesn't even matter what I use to upload my photos, I can upload them by going to my computer and selecting the files through my camera, or when I plug it in it gives me the option of what I can import, everything opens with Windows Live Photo Gallery.
    Even if I change it from Windows Live Photo Gallery to something else it comes up different.
    The settings on my camera though show nothing for changing color or really anything in the internal settings of the camera. (Keep in mind this is a cheap camera)
    But with all that being said, how is this happening? And is there anyway to stop it?
    I think it would lie on the camera, I uploaded the photos to my laptop and to my desktop computer, I got the same result.
     
  6. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Is your camera upload software doing any compressing/encoding/editing of your pictures? If they are being converted from raw to jpeg when you upload, then there is almost certainly some of this being done.

    Also, your viewfinder and monitor almost certainly have different color temperatures and settings. They also almost certainly have different qualities. Try viewing your pictures on a different monitor, or even different computer. Some of this may depend on your graphics card - I know pictures that look terrible on my laptop look great on my custom built desktop with a fancy graphics card.
     
  7. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Both computers I own showed the same picture, while the picture in the camera looked ten times better.
    Any suggestions on how I can get my computer not to do any editing to the file?
     
  8. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I've been trying ever since my last reply to do something and nothing.
    Any suggestions at all?
    I really want to get what I see in my camera, on my computer. It might save me several hundred dollars, I may not need a new camera at all.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I would be reasonably sure your problem is your monitor. There are only 2 thing I have heard of you can do. Notice the word heard" of. I have never done either.

    First of, you don't say what your resolution is. It is not uncommon for monitors not to perform well when set to other than their native resolution. (Right click on your desktop and "graphics properties")

    Secondly, there is a "color correction" at the same place.

    That being said, I would guess that your camera will have much better pictures than your computer monitor.
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Both my monitors show the same thing, and even changing the brightness and other settings really does nothing.
    So are you saying that I can't get the pictures that are shown in my camera on my computer? Would I be able to do it somebody else's computer.
    That is the question, because if I can't do it on my computer, there is no point in wasting my money on a nicer camera, because the quality of my photos would always be limited.

    Edit: Screen resolution is 1366x768 on my laptop, if that helps.
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    what kind of photo-editing software do you use Travis?
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    To edit my photos I use Photoscape, but this is not when it changes colors.
    It is a completely different photo when I upload the photo, MY COMPUTER NEVER SHOWS WHAT I SEE IN THE CAMERA.
    I have Windows 7, and it uploads the photos using Windows, and then puts them into a folder where I can view them using Windows Live Photo Gallery.
    I am not doing anything on purpose to change the color, it changes the second it is on my computer.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    So the camera didn't come with any kind of software to load on your computer.
     
  14. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    No.
    The camera was purchased several years ago, and came with the camera, a small memory card, a battery, and some cables, and the instructions.
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You are kind of catching me in the cold without any facts and little experience. However, my reference is my cheap camera (7 meg, $140 a few years ago) has a much better display than either my desktop or laptop (17" monitor) both HP's. So does my daughter's Canon Rebel SLR. I would expect both my computers are comparatively better than my camera. Although, my colors are quite similar, but not identical to the camera. Also, my laptop is probably a comparatively better computer, but my desktop beats the crap out of its display.

    BTW, I might add that pictures on my desktop look better when I use GIMP than window,s photo, but still well shy of my camera.
     
  16. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    That helps, but the color difference really is something different. I'd be okay if it is close, but the luster and color are so off, I think it really is a problem.
    I think if you saw the difference it is pretty large, and I don't know why this is the first time I've noticed it.
     
  17. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I have two cameras. One is an old Kodak (3.1mp) and the other is a Sony Cybershot DSC-H50 (9.1mp). Both produce dramatically different images on their screens which again produce different images on my computer screen. I have a 15" X 12" LCD monitor.

    I used to use Photoshop CS4 as my photo-editor until I lost it in a computer crash. Now I use Gimpshop.

    Any images that I upload, regardless of which camera I use require some sort of photo-manipulation. Sometimes, it's just contrast and brightness adjustment, and other times I have to play with hue saturation and color correction just to get close to what I want.

    Even then, I don't know if what you see is what I see because we all use different monitors.

    When I used to print out my art photos for sale, I had to spend hours making corrections so the prints would resemble my intended image.
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I have zero experience with it, but I am told you can set you monitor to virtually any color. On my old computer (the monitor was a joke), there was a program that came with my old (cheaper olympus) camera that would allow me to set the color on my monitor to match my camera. You don't say what camera you have, but you might try either going to the manufacture's website or doing a web search for any software out there.
     
  19. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    What I went ahead and did was download a free trial of Adobe Photoshop CS5.
    I made it keep the raw file, no compressing or editing whatsoever, and changed the vibrance, it now looks exactly like how it does in my camera.
    Granted the coin doesn't look like this in every angle, but under the right lighting you have this beauty.

    Before Photoshop:
    [​IMG]

    After Photoshop: (Looks exactly like what is in my camera)
    [​IMG]

    Only problem with this is I can't really afford Adobe Photoshop CS5. Do earlier versions of Photoshop have the same vibrance and brightness features, and would you recommend buying one?
    I can't really afford CS5, extended is $1000 and the non-extended is $700.
    On eBay they are cheaper but still expensive, while the lesser versions do go a bit cheaper.
    Should I buy Adobe Photoshop?
     
  20. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Calibrate.

    Then accept folks have different eyes to.....let alone different LCD's, OLEDs, plasmas........etc.

    Turning images into zeros & ones is amazing enough.

    You could find a bigger problem than being able to view perfect images passed through a wire don't ya think?:goofer:

    Even if one has a coin in hand it changes with being viewed in starlight, moonlight, daylight, tungsten, halogen....and rotated & twirled....and so on.

    Many things look different the next day. It has always been that way.

     
  21. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    If you know of certain routes, you can get it free... ;)
     
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