I was looking at a 1964 D hard plastic encased Proof Set I have. The Cent has some toning. The Quarter has a funky looking mint mark with a step at the south of it. And the Half looks like Kennedy got in a fight. There is a squiggle (near as I can tell through the case) in a line from his nose that looks like a tiny piece of wire. There are either some gouges or die cracks on the face, maybe both ? And near the Southwest point of the neck are 2 triangular shaped punch marks. Above the designer initials there is a Cud (?) that looks like a bullet or a rocket ship. Comparing it to a regular half I have, it looks awful ! Question is, would any or all of these things be considered a form of "error" ? And should I take the plastic apart for a better view ? 3rd, would any of these coins be worth having slabbed ? I have a pic, but it's not good with the plastic over the coins. Thanks
Photos would really help but from what you say, sounds like someone already opened it and placed a bunch of coins they didn't want in there. Way to many errors to have come from the Mint, maybe. Where did you get that set???
There are no 1964-D proof sets. Additionally, 1964 proof sets were sold in soft, mylar or other plastic sheets and were not offered in hard, encased plastic. You have something that someone made on their own, it is not US government issued as is and if the coins are D-mint then they are not proof.
It came from a box my mom left. I'll open it tomorrow and see what I can take. It's got the luster, but the marks really are something else. The Quarter looks great, except for the line at the south of the D which makes me wonder about a possible RPM. This is what I got now.
That is not a US Mint issued box, it appears to be a Capital Plastics holder and someone put those in the holder after the coins left the Mint.
It was in a small blue cardboard box labeled "U. S. Proof set". Her other proof sets came in brown envelopes with the coins sealed in plastic wrap. I didn't see any other labels.
The brown envelopes with coins sealed in plastic wrap were how US proof sets were packaged from the latter half of 1955 through 1964. There were not proof sets issued by the US Mint from any year in the packaging that you have shown in the image.
WoW ! Because the box is clearly labeled Proof set. I don't know where she got it of course, but all the previous year sets she left me were packaged as you said. I guess she decided not to buy direct from the mint ? Go figure ? Anyway, I am hoping the quarter is a RPM ? That would work.
Yes, a privately made, secondary market holder and if the coins are D-mint then there is absolutely no chance that they are proof issues.
OK. Mom was pretty sharp, so either she took this in trade or something else happened. She sold off much of her stuff later, but I recently found a 1887 three cent piece in an old paper coin envelope marked UNC. But that explains the ratty half. I mean it's rough. LOL Did the pic of the box post ? I can't see it.
Not to worry Gary. That set is special and unique and it came from family. Can't get any better than that. It's got its' own particular pedigree and it's priceless.....
Yes, but mom would have gone after the guy with a hatchet, if she thought he cheated her. LOL She was honest in business and expected no less of anybody else.
Well, somewhere along the line, the company that opened a 1964 (Philadelphia minted) proof set and put the proof coins into a Capitol plastic holder to sell on the secondary market in proprietary packaging had those coins removed and possibly, possibly put a Denver Mint Set into the holder. But, if the coins are as rough as you say they are, well, they might just have been unk coins taken out of general circulations. The packaging is kinda unique, that alone might hold some value. Happy Collecting
