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I can't remember which president used the phrase "The Silent American" but it really is sort of true. As long as people are happy, they don't say much. But people that are irritable find many things to say to everyone. If you watch all the protests that go on all over this country, you'll notice that they are all complaints. Anyone ever see a protest march about how wonderful something is? Same with a great, interesting, educational post on coins here.
Same with the internet. People just don't want to spend time congradulating someone on anything. However, just say something here about an objectionable subject on coins and it starts a never ending wave of replys. For example if I was to say Jefferson Nickels are a waste of money, I'd be bombarded with numerous counter replys.
It is really true that there have been many, many really educational, intelligent, noteworthy posts on coins on these forums. Yet for some reason they just fade away.

 

This is something that is completely unfamiliar to me because I haven't been here that long, and I will keep it in mind.

Thanks, Doug!

Chris

 

When I read this (the following) I was lost like a goose in a snow storm. I wanted to nominate one of them PhysicFan pie topics but was unable to follow these directions so I just gave up.

Quote: There's no way to do with the forum software that I know of, so we'll do it the hard way. Starting now, members can nominate any post, not thread, that they think is deserving of being saved in a place that it can be easily found for later reference. But it will require at least 10 nominations from individual members for that post to be included.

The way you make these nominations will be for you, the members, to send me a PM with a link to that specific post, and if it gets 10 nominations, I'll include it. I'll create a new spot call The Clinker Award and that's where all such nominated post can be found. At the end of each post will be a link back to the original thread so anyone can read the entire thread.

 

I am not one of those who complained and/or requested "to bring back some way to nominate great posts on Coin Talk". However, I have nominated at least (more than?) my share of posts;

http://www.cointalk.com/t56246/#post610067 {Diffused Lighting Coin Photography (Capture the Color)} post #1

http://www.cointalk.com/t78043/#post733758 {How to tell if your 1909 S. V.D.B is real} post #1

http://www.cointalk.com/t91049/#post803686 {PCGS Article on Detecting 1909-S vdb Counterfeits} post #1

If I let it be know that these post at least have some nominations, maybe there will be enough others to have them receive "the award". Today, I am going to add the following:

http://www.cointalk.com/t49827-2/#post547975 {The FS (Full Step) Designation for Jefferson Nickels Defined (PHOTOGRAPHICALLY)

http://www.cointalk.com/t110012/#post900759 {Comprehensive List of Numismatic Reference Books (U.S. Coins) - Part 1 of 2} post #1

http://www.cointalk.com/t110013/#post900761 {Comprehensive List of Numismatic Reference Books (U.S. Coins) Part 2 of 2} post #1

 

I think one of the problems really is members aren't aware of what posts are being nominated, unlike with the TOTW or Clinker Award, where you could tell what posts/threads were nominated. So I think it gets forgotten about by the majority of members.

There was one recent thread (Define Market Grading) which I thought was great. I nominated post #22 (Define Market Grading - Page 2), that post, and thread imo was very informative.

Doug, is there any way we could have a thread where members, if they want, would be allowed to post what posts they nominated?

 

Doug.......that is what happens when you take something away and then try to bring it back. When you get the button on the screen so you can just hit the nominate button....I will start participating again.

It also sucks for some of us forum members that actually worked hard at our post to get them nominated. When you guys took the award away that is pretty much when I stopped posting here as much. IMO the quality of post as also went down hill since then.

 

You see Doug, I've completely forget about this even being in effect, without that cute little nominate button, it just slipped through my mind.
I didn't complain to you or out loud, as far as I can remember, but I did complain silently
Sorry Doug, if it makes you feel any better, I can try to start participating. I, at one time had two awards I believe, and I remember how much I busted my butt to get that award too, but I felt good when I won the award, I think it proved than I was more than just a crazy poster who didn't know what I was doing, it gave me confidence and made me feel good about what I knew, and made me want to go further. Maybe this new system of the award could do the same for another member.
Hate to let ya' down, Doug.

Travis

 

If nothing else, that is why I post my nominations at any convenient place - i.e. this thread and the original thread.

 

So we are being chastised for not using a process many of us doesn't know exists.

PM'ing a post # is certainly not an efficient way of nominating threads.

And your condescending tone certainly isn't going to draw favor.

 

I complained, I nominated, and I even participate in writing some in depth threads. So I think I get to sidestep Doug's wrath!

However, I agree that the process to nominate a post is a little too convaluted. I think it would be much more successful if it was more simple, like a button or only one or two clicks.

 

Simple solution... find a forum tool, similar to the report button, that allows us to nominate a post with a single click.

 

What modifications were made that led to it being not supported? I'm sure there's someone on this forum who could recode it to work properly again.

 

Honestly, Doug, why don't you and Peter and the rest of the admins just award the posts that you think merit the praise?

I dunno. This whole TOTW thing is a bit sore with me. During it's first incarnation I worked hard and received a few nominations and even garnered a 3rd best TOTW. (Honestly I thought that I worked very hard to try to create threads that would provoke discussion without becoming a nuisance.) The TOTW Hall of Fame (which featured many banned members) got deleted and re-started at some point and all of the previous winners names were flushed down the internet toilet forever.

Then the idea was to award deserving posts as helpful. Again many of us tried to be helpful, informative and insightful. The few that got nominated were largely from a small group of people and all nominations appeared to be made by the same people for the same people's posts.

It seemed kind of cliquey to me and honestly it contributed to why I stopped trying so hard.

I now just post what I post, I answer what I answer and you can all keep the recognition. I know that there are several here that respect me, and value my opinion as well as respect what I have to add.

The recognition would be nice, but it's not what I am here for. Something that I have seen in other places is awards that are given by the owners of the site to people that they feel are helpful, have given long service, helped to run things, etc.

Leaving an award to be given by the masses turns into a popularity contest after a while. If you want to encourage good posts, then you (the site owners) should award and reward good posts, behavior, etc.

 

That's fitting forum behavior for an admin.

 

Doug,

I understand your frustration with this issue. However, your solution has not been well received by the membership of this forum. Instead of complaining about our non-compliance, why don't you look for a different solution than PM'ing you with our nominations? It really doesn't matter how simple you think it is, the fact is that it isn't working.

My suggestion is to create a thead called "Clinker Award Nominations" and in the OP explain the rules and history behind the award. Make the thread a sticky thread that always remains at the top of the screen. When someone wants to nominate a post, they simply reply to the thread, provide the thread name, post#, and link to the thread. If they want, they can even explain their reason for nominating the post.

Personally, I do not like the anonymity involved in the private message solution. I would prefer that all nominations be public so that we can see what was nominated and by whom. For this reason, I have not participated in the new clinker award process even though I was one that complained about the loss of the TOTW.

Paul