Still very difficult to tell from these images, but here is what appears to be a contact mark behind the head that exibits the same effect. Obviously contact marks happen after the minting process. Also, is it just me or does anyone else think this coin looks like it's been whizzed by a dremmell or something? Maybe this could have something to do with it and being polished may be what led to the OP thinking it was a proof.
Honestly, he's seeing things that just aren't there. His rationale for thinking it was a proof was because he thinks he sees an "S" mintmark hiding behind the "D", but San Francisco didn't make proof coins in 1955. Personally, I wouldn't waste the money submitting it, and there is even some risk that it may be removed from the "horseshoe". It's probably worth far more to a collector of casino memorabilia. The CC>CC has a huge member base, and some of them specialize in exonumia like this. The provenance associated with Binion's Horseshoe can add considerable value to it. This $5 house chip that I got at Binion's back in the mid-90's was worth about $50 the last time I checked. Chris
Abe, because of the limit of 250 KB of this site. I cant seem to get a image under 250KB because of the coin holder adding to the size of the KB image. This last scan is a completely different scan and so are all these other scans. None of the scans are the same pic.
So host your images on Photobucket and then post links to the pics here. That will allow everyone to see them full size.
Quick picture posting tutorial. Go to http://photobucket.com/ and sign up, it's free. Then upload your pictures. Then once you upload them, click the Direct Link box, it'll automatically copy the link, see pic below. then when posting, click the Image Button, see pic below. A screen will pop up looking like the one below. Remove the HTTP://, then right click and choose paste, then click OK. That'll add pics to your post like they are in this post I just made.
Great post Billyray. I use Photobucket as well but a little different. I use the last option (IMG code). Just copy and past it in the body of the reply.
Hey Silva... Hate to say it but you have set yourself up for failure... Starting off with asking about your coin but stating that it is a 'find of the century' kinda insinuates you have already formed your opinion... Also, the words are QUADrupled and QUINtupled... Your scans are creating some of the 'doubling' effect... The 's' you think was there would never have been over near the 'IN GOD WE' where you think it was... Your photographs simply need to be better to get a good opinion on what you have... The coin is not a proof, and QUALITY of the coin has zero to do with whether it was ever a proof or not... And you don't really want to prove that you have an absolute ONE OF A KIND coin, since generally that means it was not a mint error... Die errors of the kind you think you have would have more credibility if atleast ONE other were found... Look at articles on the so-called 1958 doubled die obverse wheat cent as an example... People would far rather have a 1955 ddo... Regards, B
In 2009 an MS-64 1958 DDO sold for $150,000.00. Are you sure you'd rather have the '55? I'll trade ya!:goofer:
Yeah, guess I kinda mistated that about wanting a 55 instead, but the point is the same... The '58 gained credibility and value when they discovered a second example (and possible a third)... But if I come across a 58 ddo, I will be hanging onto it...
When I do it, I click on the IMG Code (4th one down) and copy it, then just post that into my post here and it show up. I think that is the easier way to do it....
Thanks, Panda! That's one of about 300 I accumulated when I used to go to Las Vegas for the pool tournaments. Some of the commems are pretty cool, too, and I even designed a couple Riviera chips for the 25th Anniversary BCA North American Championships, and guess what! It's an error chip because the manufacturer, Paulson Co., misspelled "Billiards" by omitting the second "i". It's too bad chip collectors don't go ga ga over errors like coin collectors.
That's why I offered to host them for him... because it's a hell of a lot easier to send me an email than to sign up for an account with photobucket, upload it, figure out the direct picture source, then embed it.
Now here is something that explains the effects we are seeing on the coin. A contact point is something that I did not see and know much about. Thanks for the insight! It explains why the mint has the same effect as the rest of the obverse. Hats off to you! I still don't know what caused the effect? A dremmel would have been hard to create the same effect so uniform. I thought maybe the polishing might have done it, but again, the effect is too uniform. I'm sorry it so long to get back to you, but I am in the process of moving and have had no time to even plug my computer in until now. I will be posting a link to a picture with photo bucket. I hope it helps.