Thoughts? US Occupation of Phillipines

I had a related question, decided to put on a new thread.

 

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That is true. How one decides to do it is entirely their decision. I don't have any coins from the Phillipines, but if I did I would classify them under Phillipine Coins.

 

Here is another thought. Where do you classify other former Territories? Say Alaska Tokens, would you classify them under Russia before they became a state? How about Hawaii? Do you take Puerto Rican coins and list them under Spain? Where did you classify all your Territorial Quarters? Why would the Territory of the Philippines be different? Some Territories became Country's, some States, and some remain Territories. Others have been reclassified to Possessions, some were Commonwealths and others just given away to other governments (legally of course). I list all mine under U.S, the only common bond

 

...nor is it reasonable to call it colonialism. Colonialism involves forming colonies, of course, and that involves migration from the Mother Country with intent to form significant footprint on foreign soil for various reasons.

 

Alot of designs resemble U.S. Currency because most of them
Took some features from it!!

 

Philippine currency looks that way because BEP designed and printed it. (From after the Spanish American War until the end of WWII). The exception being during Japanese Occupation. Least we also forget, they were considered part of the US to the point we put an official Mint of the United States there. The only one outside our Mainland.

 

That to LOL

 

While I could be 100% wrong, I was told that the note I posted here in this thread was a Japanese occupation currency of the Phillipines. The Japanese did NOT use the BEP for printing their currency during the war - this I am VERY sure of.

Kinda made me chuckle though ... Imagine!!

 

LewR,
Read your post again. My quote says; "The exception being during Japanese Occupation". YOUR post kind of made me chuckle when I read it. I might add, my comment was right after and more directed to mpcusa, elaborating on his statement "Alot of designs resemble U.S. Currency because most of them took some features from it!!".

 

As others have posted, these are Japanese issues made while Japan was occupying the Phillipine Islands. From bits and pieces I have read, the Japanese authorities intentionally designed such notes in each place they occupied so that they would look like the currency already circulating.

Oh and as I said before, you can go either way on calling US colonial currency American or Phillipine. You could include it in an American collection but you could also include all colonial issues (US & Spanish) in a comprehensive Philliphines collection.

 

It's Mt. Mayon located in Albay, Bicol Province.

 

The "Red Book", "A Guide Book of United States Coins" lists them so they are American.

 

Not sure what to do with coins from such places. I've got some from many places like the Philipines, etc and just not sure how to classify them.
Now if I go by the amount of people from some of these places that are in the actual USA, even more confusing. For example since about 10% of Mexico is now here, is there money ours or thiers? Some time ago I worked in a place where the population of Philipinos was about 25%. If you look around New York and Chicago, I sometimes wonder who is left in Porto Rico except tourist? If you go to most of these places and use our USA money, do they look at it as foriegn?
If it's not USA coin, I just put it in a box and figure I'll worry about later, if there is one.

 

I've always considered them Philippines, not American. I divide my world coins by nation if I have enough of them or by region if I don't, and for example British Empire coins I always sort by region, not as Great Britain. I have a coin from the Spanish Netherlands, but I put it with the Netherlands, not Spain. I go by the status of the country today, not the time the coin was made. But I can see the other arguments too.

 

Maybe the solution to this question is simple. Is there a place in any USA type set for Philipine coins?

 

The Guide book also lists 8 Reales of Spain/Spanish colonies, coins of the Kingdom of Hawaii, coins made for Bermuda, coins made for Ireland, coins of Vermont when it was an independent country, counterfeit British half pence, independent Texas, Conder tokens from England, and of the Confederacy. All issues for other countries. Yes they have connections here, and some were used here, but I consider them just that, coins of other countries with close ties to the US, but not US coins.

 

Let's look at it from a slightly different perspective. What are the requirements of a US coin?

These are a few I came up with:
- it must be struck by a US mint
- it must say UNITED STATES on the coin
- it must have circulated within the United States

Any others?

 

I consider Massachusetts and Connecticut coppers to be U.S. coins, yet they don't match 1 and 2 of your requirements :goofer:

 

Me too! Which is precisely the point I'm getting at. Philippine issues, on the other hand, did bear the proper legends and were minted in the right place. But they didn't circulate here.

Guess what? Neither did the trade dollars! Better go rip 'em out of your typesets.

 

Actually Trade dollars were legal tender here and DID circulate in the US. At least for awhile.