DC Quarter WDDR-001

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  1. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Does anyone know the value of a Denver Mint DC Quarter WDDR-001 or have you seen one for sale. Here's a pic of it.
     

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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Here are two sales of a different variety, but they should give you an idea. Yours is much more pronounced, but I still wouldn't give you much more than $5 for it.
     
  4. chip

    chip Novice collector

    I do not collect them, but it seems almost a rule of thumb that errors that are noticable with the eye seem to attract more attention.
     
  5. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    I wish this one was mine! I've only seen pics and none for sale. The other DC DDR's are available, but I can't seem to find the one in the pic (WDDR-001). The WDDR-001 appears to be the most pronounced and the rarest (unless someone has a hoard). I'll take all offered at $5, but fear by the time they're offered, they'll be in the hundreds or thousands!
     
  6. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    I have a P minted DC with extra piano keys. Coin World magazine had an article a while ago on the different errors for this issue.
     
  7. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Yep, I think this one will go down as the double die with the most separation.
     
  8. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Where did you get the photo? How many are known?
    It will take me hours or days but I'll try digging up the Coin World article. It does have that error in it.
    Or is this a discovery coin with only one example known?
     
  9. statequarterguy

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    Got the photo from Wexler online - just google, "dc quarter wddr-001 wexler", it will probably be one of the first hits. Then scroll down to the D mints (the first dd's are P mints).
     
  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I don't think "doubled die" is the correct term for your variety.
    The term "dropped [something]" sticks in my mind.
    If I'm correct, I understand the cause, just can't remember the terminology.
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You may be thinking of the term "dropped element" but this wouldn't apply in this case. A dropped element occurs when debris builds up in an incused element of the die. Continued strikes can harden this debris to steel-like proportions. When it eventually falls away from the die, it is often struck into the surface of the planchet. If it remains embedded in the surface of the planchet, it is called a retained dropped element, but if it falls away after the coin is ejected from the coining chamber, it leaves an incuse impression of the dropped element in the planchet.

    As you can see from the photo, the element (lettering) is not incuse. It is raised.

    Chris
     
  12. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    First, do we agree it's not die doubling?
    If it IS doubling then the rest of this entry will be trash.

    I understand your description of "dropped element" (and thanks for filling in the terminology gap in my memory).
    But I also seem to recall a continuation of this.
    When it finally falls away to some other orientation/location and is incorporated into a particular planchet, it also transfers its "relief" back to the die in the new location.
    Thus the die gets an added feature which now is transferred to subsequent planchets until someone catches the change and puts in a new die.

    Or, once again, is my mind playing tricks on me.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    No, you are correct, and that "continuation" completely slipped my mind. Now, if you look at that quarter, not only are the letters likely to be dropped elements, but possibly a couple of the (tips) piano keys as well. Thanks for reminding me. Old age sucks!

    I agree that it is not a doubled die.

    Chris
     
  14. jello

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  15. statequarterguy

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  16. statequarterguy

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    The experts say it's a double die. Wexler has a good description of how this occurred, which was confirmed with the mint. Due to the new hubbing process, double dies should be toward the center of the coin, as also occurred with some of the 2009 Lincolns. Here's a link to Wexler.

    http://doubleddie.com/65301.html
     
  17. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    OK I looked through all my old Coin World issues and didn't find the article.
    But the question still remains: How many of these are known?
    If the number of examples is very low you may not see them for sale.
    Just guessing...
     
  18. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member


    Did you miss this? Just a heads up.

    Copyright Notice: All photos on this website are copyright © 2009 by John A. Wexler unless otherwise noted. They may not be reproduced or used in any way without written permission.
     
  19. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Thanks, I'll look into that. I know Wexler generally lets others use his photos for educational purposes.
     
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