1885 morgan proof value uncirculated

After looking at the improved photos, I'm going to have to agree with the majority. That isn't a proof. What it is, is a damn fine looking MS Morgan dollar......nothing wrong with that for $35. I bought two AU50 Morgans for $32 a piece recently, so you should be happy with that.

 

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Your new photos clearly show the coin to be a business strike issue and not a proof. The fields do not resemble a proof in any manner. You can accept this, or you can continue to post away. However, if you really believe you have a proof then you can simply send it to PCGS or NGC for certification as such and then you would have your "proof" regarding the matter.

 

first of all i will say this one more time.im not responding till its graded!!!!!!!!!!!!!if any more imature people want to run there mouth feel free because for starters i dont care one way or the other!!!!!!!!!!im not posting nothing and you keep replying?do i know you?no!do you know me?be a man and drop it!!!!!!!i dont have time to mess with children.period.say what you want......................

 

This thread could benefit from some of the more knowledgable people explaining the difference between prooflike and proof. I have a canadian 1965 set that I have seen similar examples labeled as "prooflike", I have seen many Morgans labeled deep mirror prooflike, or prooflike. The obvious thing I have pulled from those who are discussing the coin is that proofs are manufactured in a different way than from business strikes, a proof has especially prepared dies and planchets, while a prooflike coin could have some extremely nice planchets and probably a new die and well struck. That is my novice take on it, but what say those in the know?

 

Also I think that I have read that the Philadelphia Mint was the only one that officially made proofs of Morgans, but to me that does not mean that mint workers at carson city, or New Orleans or San Francisco could not have put a bit extra polish on the planchets and dies and set the press to double strike a few coins.

 

Yea and we're the ones being immature...
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I just want to thank everyone for a lot of technical description on the differences between grades. The Red Book does well at describing different grades but you guys do a much better job. Learn something new every time I come here. I can see I'm going to have to change my way of thinking
Thanks again,
Rich

 

Jesse,

I believe that some of the others are keeping this thread alive because they would really like to know the results of the submission.

No offense, but this wouldn't be the first time on this or other coin forums where someone has appeared, made a statement that everyone disagreed with, didn't like what they heard and never appeared again to prove anyone right or wrong.

Believe me, if I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it. All I'm asking is that you give us the same consideration. So, when the coin comes back from grading, would you please let us know the results? Which TPG did you use for the submission?

Thanks,

Chris

 

and include the photo of the coin in question slabbed

 

Has this coin even been sent in for grading yet?

 

It says proof right on the cardboard holder like most proofs right?
Id say Jesse really put one over on those hick coinsellers at the estate auction.

 

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Got me 2 1885 Uncirculated but not proof go ahead and send it in though

 

when i get time to get it graded i will post it for sure.im not bothered by if im right or wrong im just gathering facts from what i see and compared it to a proof.if its a buisness strike its ok if its proof its ok if its the best example of a coin destined to be circulated its ok.im just saying its sharp detail is nothing like my other morgans.also ,the finish is different.shiny no dark spots and consistant sheen.

 

if you look very carefully there is doubling on the words on the obverse on all the letters on the front.very close together but there.

 

Man. Have you ever heard of the TPG designations "Proof Like and Deep Proof Like"? MS COINS CAN HAVE PROOF LIKE SURFACES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two points I would like to make here.

1.) Why, on Earth, would a rare, 1895 proof, still be floating around in a cardboard 2x2!?!? A 4 to $7,000 coin?? Do you realize how many people have probably owned this coin in the past 20 years? To not have it professionally graded? No way.

2.) I've seen many pics of the newest Chinese counterfeits on the internet and they look just like that! They appear to be perfect and have almost proof like, flawless, surfaces. All features are perfect. No blemishes. It wouldn't shock me at all if this wasn't a new Chinese counterfeit and you just threw $35 away. I'll try to find a good pic for you.

 

Your posting 1885, but it looks like 1883 to me.

Am I missing something?

I saw a subsequent 1885 posted but now I can't figure out which photo's are yours and which ones are LIKE yours.

Good luck. You're going to need it I'm afraid.