My latest pickup on ebay (SLQ)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by phubanks, May 18, 2010.

  1. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    Just bought this! :hail:

    It's my first unc. Standing Liberty Quarter (something I have wanted for 40+ years). The only SLQ's I had before this, I pulled out of bank quarter rolls in the mid 1960's (and they were badly WORN).

    I have seen few unc. SLQ's for sale with this much original mint luster. The fact that it's a 1917 Type 1 is just a cherry on top, the Type 1 was only made for 2 years, and was discontinued because the conservative right was upset there was a naked breast on a US coin. Starting later in 1917 for the Type 2, they covered Lady Liberty's right breast.

    I paid $595, which is just a hair under the PCGS price guide value of $600 to $700.

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  3. WOW thats a beauty =)
     
  4. ChurnDog

    ChurnDog Junior Member

    That is a beautiful looking coin. I love it.
     
  5. kawirt

    kawirt Junior Member

    Congrats on a great purchase. :hail:
     
  6. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    That's a beauty-the mint should use that design on a bullion coin, silver only
     
  7. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Mine must all be errors because they are missing the shield, the clothes, and her face.
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    What a reverse strike!!!
     
  9. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Gorgeous :)
     
  10. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    LOL, been looking at my collection again...
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    That is a very nice SLQ, but I don't recommend using the PCGS price guide to guage your purchases. I don't give much credence to a grading company that assesses the value of coins in their own slab. You would be better off checking the Heritage archives for comparable sales.

    Chris
     
  12. dingodonkey

    dingodonkey Junior Member

    Wow, that's a beauty! I'm especially fond of the Type 1 design.
     
  13. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Love that coin in high grade. Very nice:hail:
     
  14. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    That's a an absolute stunner! Check out the vertical stripes on the shield. Wow.
     
  15. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    My latest pickup on Ebay.

    Just bought this on E Bay 1923 Peace with doubling 23 heres the pic attachement.
     

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  16. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    My Latest pick up on E Bay.

    My very First FROSTY 1879 o Morgan Silver Dollars and 1934s Peace Dollar on E BAY.
     

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  17. mumu

    mumu Junior Member

    Looks solid pq for a 64
     
  18. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    Hey thanks for all the comments!!

    I agree this would be a stunning design to use on a bullion coin.

    Also thanks for the post about using the heritage auction archive to price coins ... i wasnt aware of that! ... it looks like this year and grade has auctioned for between $475 to $575 ... so I was a little bit high ... still I am glad I bought it ... even if I overpaid slightly.

    Like most of us collectors -- I will probably never sell the darn thing -- but someday my descendents might.
     
  19. love coins

    love coins Junior Member

    Im with ya thats how mine are that coin you picked up on ebay is a beauty phubanks
     
  20. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I don't know if your coin has original, undisturbed mint luster since it is just so white. It may be original, but there is a decent chance it has taken a bath in dip at some point.

    Regarding the text of yours I put in bold, you are repeating a numismatic myth. There is not a single piece of contemporary evidence to suggest this was the cause of the change. Allegorical male and female nudes were widely accepted in the US during this time period and were featured on paper money as well as public statuary. The change in design was driven by a desire by the artist and the Mint to produce a better coin and it was the artist (MacNeil) who changed the style of Ms. Liberty to that fo a chain mail covering. This may in part be due to the fact that the original sketches for the coin were produced when the US was not on the precipice of WWI, but by the time the coin design was changed the US found itself close to being sucked into the war. Also, MacNeil changed how he composed public statues featuring nude or semi-nude women to also wear the chain mail breast covering during this immediate pre-war and WWI period. Much more information can be found in Roger Burdette's wonderful Renaissance of American Coinage trilogy where Roger used primary source material to trace the production and change in designs.
     
  21. phubanks

    phubanks Junior Member

    hey thanks for the historical update. i wasnt alive in 1917 so I was relying on this write up I found on the web (see red below) but you are right ... it does say it's not well documented, however it wouldn't surprise me if some groups werent complaining (why else cover the breast?)

    The first Standing Liberty Quarter coins came of the Philadelphia presses on December 16, 1916 and the series continued through 1930. A mere 52,000 pieces were minted in those last two weeks of 1916 and were released to the public along with 1917 dated coins in early 1917.


    Legend has it that shortly after the release there was a public outcry over the exposed right breast of Lady Liberty. Others complained that the small eagle looked like a pigeon. Whether this led to the design change is not well documented as there were also stacking issues with the Type I coins.


    In any event, the design was changed in 1917 to cover the right breast with chain-mail as well as minor changes to the back of the coin which moved three stars beneath the eagle, thereby raising and centering the eagle. Thus was born the Type II Standing Liberty Quarter.
     
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