Where are all the great threads?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by dctjr80, May 10, 2010.

  1. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    When I started on CoinTalk two years ago there used to be tons of well written threads and articles every week, winning awards and nominations and such... Where did they all go? I am only asking because I am much better in life at being a Critic than a Creator, but I really enjoyed that aspect of the site. Do not get me wrong, I still love that people are really friendly and quick to assist you when you ask.
     
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  3. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    There are still those threads. But not as many I'd say.
    Maybe there it nothing more to say about coins ;)
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Donn,

    I agree with you. The number of creative threads has diminished greatly on this site. I think there are a few major factors. First, with a heavy increase of newer members, there are many more basic types of threads being started. In addition, the absence of TOTW (thread of the week) and the associated voting has negatively affected the number of education threads in general. I know that when the TOTW was in effect, you could count on Clinker and me every week with a thread. Lastly, the sheer number of threads these days is pushing the educational threads off the board so fast that some of them are being missed all together.

    I particularly liked the TOTW hall of fame. It made researching some of the great threads much easier.

    Paul
     
  5. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member

    I just got here, give me some time.
     
  6. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    I am happy to see that people are answering me realistically, I feared that in writing this thread 20 people would just say "Hey there is great stuff here all the time, what are you talking about?". But I am getting some real feedback that is concurring with mine own suspicions of late. Will we ever get the TOTW back? That may just be the main key we are missing here.
     
  7. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    I have to agree that the TOTW was a strong incentive to write up a noteworthy post. There have been threads posted this year that I wish I could have nominated, because I want those posters to do it again in future threads. Seeing that others have found a thread noteworthy tends to generate further interest and comments. Its a bummer writing up something for hours and have it relegated to page two about the same time frame.
     
  8. There have been great relatively recent threads here on Franklin half dollars, Washington quarter varieties, and Ike dollars that were very informative/enjoyable and would have easily received my vote for TOTW. I think much is determined by time and interest. We now live in the Twitter age in which people's attention span for long electronic posts is limited. TC
     
  9. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I suspect your just not aware of what is informative anymore or not as much as you used to be. By that I mean this forum is sort of like a cooking show where there are just so many ways to make a stew, cook a steak, Bar-B-Que something. Sure there will always be a little more things you don't know, but as you acquire knowledge, information, records, history about any subject, the amount of NEW just deminishes.
    Take coin cleaning for example. There will always be someone asking about coin cleaning. And there will always be many of the same answers but occationally someone will pop up with something a little different about that. A little different twist on something said many times before. Your tired of coin cleaning since it is brought up so often but still there could be that one little bit of information added the next time it is discussed.
    Your dealing with coins, not Nuclear Reactions, Quasars, Black Holes nor the expanding Universe if that is really true. In such fields there are new things every day. With coins, like many other hobbies, the amount of NEW is limited.
    However, contrary to that is the vast number of books appearing lately on coins. Used to be only the Red Book and a few others. Now at a coin show there are tables full of books on just coins. Must be something in them NEW.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Threads come and threads go. How good they are, or how good they are perceived to be, depends largely on the participants. And if the participants don't participate in just the right way - interest wanes and the thread dies. You guys are the particpants. You guys either make it, or break it. Nobody else can do it but you.

    Think of it this way. Consider an author. He writes an absolutely great book, a bestseller ! Then what ? Do you think bestsellers just fly off the typewriter or computer ? They don't. It takes a great deal of work. But no matter how much work you put into something, if it doesn't gel just right, if it doesn't all come together in just the perfect way - it's just blah !

    Well you guys are the authors. You have to do the work. You have to create the bestseller. You write the threads.

    Now here's something I discovered by being an editor. When you get a new group together, say a coin club, or a forum, and the club decides that they want articles written for the club. At first the articles just pour in. It seems that everybody has something to offer. Everything is going great.

    But pretty soon, it all slows down. You find that you have 5 or 6 articles written by this guy, 3 or 4 by that guy, 2 or 3 by this one over here and that one over there. And depending on the size of your group you might have 50 - 75 very good articles. Then it all just comes to a screaming halt !

    You can beg, you can offer prizes, you can plead with people on your knees to write more, send in more articles. And that might fet you a few more. But after that, you get zip, nada.

    Why ? Because the authors have already given everything they have and they just don't have anymore to give. That is - without the proper motivation, inspiration. That's what it takes to write, motivation and inspiration. You need that seed, that idea, that one special phrase that sparks your fingers into life ! Then the words just fly onto the page. And that great thread is born
    !

    Take my participation on this forum as an example. Do you think I have all of these words just stuck in my brain waiting to come out ? I don't. It's up to you to bring them out. You have to ask just the right question. You have to make the incorrect statement, or correct statement that somehow gives me something else to say about it.

    It's the same thing for everybody else, anybody that has ever put words on paper or an internet page. Every single one of them needs that something that sparks the idea. And it can come from anywhere, anywhere ! But without that spark - nada. And you folks, every single one of you - provide those sparks.

    So if you want great threads - let's see the sparks ;)
     
  11. The Penny Lady®

    The Penny Lady® Coin Dealer

    I agree with Doug's comments :)bigeyes::D). It takes inspiration, and I too get some of my ideas from reading questions or other comments on the forums. The recent article I posted on "A Day (or Two) in the Life of a Coin Dealer" was written as a result of replying to a thread a few months back about what it takes to be a dealer. And I'm currently writing another article as a result of reading forum threads called "The Blog."

    Even if the same questions are being asked over and over again, as Carl said, something new usually comes of it, or someONE new will read it and respond differently, or get an idea to ask or write about something else.

    Writing doesn't work well if it's forced, but for me, the more I read, the more I get inspired. However, I do have to admit that competition does stir up the senses and tends to bring out more people at least WANTING to write, so that is a good thing. I also liked the TOTW and miss it - I too liked that it was easy to find what everyone else thought was interesting to read.

    I try to read the message boards at least once a day usually in the morning when I'm having my coffee, unless I'm travelling. I want to know what coin people are thinking about, concerned with, collecting, where the market is or may be headed, what new discovery has been made, see pretty or unique coins - or just plain learn. As I mentioned in another thread recently when another forum member said I was a novice - I may not be a novice but I am still learning, I learn something new about coins almost every day - because I read.

    Some days these boards are pretty boring, so I read other forums (PCGS & NGC) (don't tell Doug!) to see what is being discussed there. Sometimes ALL the boards are boring, but I still click on various threads and usually find something interesting. I even force myself now and then to read threads that are about non-copper coins!
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Had to take a pill on that one :D

    :secret: so do I ;)

    Say it isn't so :D
     
  13. Art

    Art Numismatist?

    Another part of excellent threads is excellent and thoughtful readers. If we want folks to spend the time and effort to post interesting information, we all need to respond to those posts in a kind and thoughtful manner. If you have nothing to add to the subject, a "Thank you. I enjoyed your post." goes a long way to encouraging the poster and others as well.

    So. Thank you for this interesting and thought provoking thread.
     
  14. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I still see some interesting threads here from time to time. But, like anywhere else on the internet, for every one there are a hundred more that aren't so interesting. Sometimes a thread simply dies not because the content isn't interesting, but because it's an entire page of bad and sometimes incomprehensible writing about a good subject. Thats hard to choke down.
    Guy~
     
  15. Pilkenton

    Pilkenton almost uncirculated

    I'm semi-new here. I don't have the knowledge or funds to be interested in some of the deeper subjects here. I find the trivial stuff interesting and I do have general questions that need to be answered.

    I also see a lot of new members, many of them are kids. Everyone here welcomes them and tells them not to be scared to ask questions. I've asked a lot of questions, and I'm 52 years old. I don't want to feel, and I certainly don't want these youngsters here to feel that some of our simple questions are frowned upon by some of the more knowledgeable members here.
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I would like to see a non-posting area, ( similar to the OPEN forum) where a person could write an informative thread. A poll could be attached to see if the members voted to retain that thread as a sticky or to allow it to fade into the oblivion of unappreciated threads. My reason for this is that sometimes a person spends a lot of time and effort to develop a specific subject (Let's say Determination of PL vs DPL Morgans) only to have it high jacked or someone gets personal, or showing of examples the author might not think fitted his article. Someone might post a proof quarter and get off the main topic line. I am not saying that a person couldn't comment on it or even post their proof quarter, just that it would be posted in coin chat or other appropriate sub-forum, with a link back to the article. Just a thought.

    Jim
     
  17. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    I love great threads but find great posts to be even better in many cases and I don't think there has been a slow down in great posts. Great threads develop like magic but great posts can show up in even the most unexpected places.

    I really should open a lot more threads than I do but time is limited so look for things of greater intetrest to me.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well I'll tell ya what guys. Between these two posts you guys have given me an idea. And with it I can revive an older idea of mine, The Clinker Award, that didn't work out.

    We have such an area Jim, Numismatic Resources. So here's what we'll do.

    There's no way to do with the forum software that I know of, so we'll do it the hard way. Starting now, members can nominate any post, not thread, that they think is deserving of being saved in a place that it can be easily found for later reference. But it will require at least 10 nominations from individual members for that post to be included.

    The way you make these nominations will be for you, the members, to send me a PM with a link to that specific post, and if it gets 10 nominations, I'll include it. I'll create a new spot call The Clinker Award and that's where all such nominated post can be found. At the end of each post will be a link back to the original thread so anyone can read the entire thread.

    For the time being, this thread is now a Sticky so that anyone can see it and know how to participate.

    Understand - any nonsensical nominations, or any that I consider "over the top" will be rejected out of hand.

    We'll give it a go and see how it works ;)
     
  19. Gao

    Gao Member

    Might want to replace this sticky with one that explains that in the opening post, since I'm not sure if everyone's going to read this whole thread.
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I thought it was pretty clear -

    The way you make these nominations will be for you, the members, to send me a PM with a link to that specific post, and if it gets 10 nominations, I'll include it.

    I want to use the PM method so that I can keep all of the nominations in folders. That way I can keep track of them.

    Like I said, we have to do this the hard way because the forum software does not support it.
     
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