Mpc Cross Grading Experiment Complete

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by mpcusa, May 8, 2010.

  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Well i just got back my notes back from PCGS today and the cross
    Grading experiment is complete here,s the results:

    Originally graded by RCGS

    Series 681 25 Cents in 68PPQ

    Series 681 50 Cents in 68PPQ


    Returned today in PCGS

    Series 681 25 Cents in 67PPQ

    Series 681 50 Cents in 66PPQ


    These notes are good! but i new going in that they were over graded
    So it wasent that much of a shock, I was a little suprised on the 66
    But after examining it further it was a little bit shorter about 1/16 th
    Of an inch in over all length affecting the boarder slightly causing the
    Lower grade, I did however save over $150 submitting these notes
    Myself over trying to find and purchase them :)

    Also this does complete my Series 681 set !!! With the addition Of the
    $10 note i just purchase, When that comes in i will post the whole set
    For your viewing pleasure :)


    Here are the photos, I must appologize, Because the fronts of these
    Notes were tif. Files and not Jpeg,s and photo bucket will not accept
    This type of file, Ive been trying for several hours to try and make
    The file transfer, was able to make the 50 Cent front work but not the
    The 25 but you get the Picture! :)


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  3. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  4. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Nice cross over Rusty!!

    The series set is done eh :D
    Good feeling isn't it.
    Now on to the next series.
     
  5. Art

    Art Numismatist?

    So all in all you did well by purchasing RCGS notes that you felt would cross reasonably to PCGS. It's a good approach. I've been watching PCGS and PMG notes for the 5 cent MPCs I'm "collecting". I have purchased a few notes but most are raw and in what I'd say vg condition. I was tempted on a few RCGS notes because they looked good to an untrained eye and had substantially lower prices than their PCGS equivalents.
     
  6. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    As you can see RCGS notes are over graded by at least 1 full grade
    Point and in the case of the 50 cent note 2 full grades!! So there
    Price point would be alot less then there PCGS counterparts so that
    Must be taken in to consideration in other words the quality is less!

    Here,s another fun fact the guy that sales these on e-bay actually
    Own,s the company and grades them as well !!

    So you really have to self grade before purchase of an RCGS note!
     
  7. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

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    That's my highest grade one MPCUSA.
    It's nice and I like it :D

    This one should grade rather high also but it's raw for now...


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  8. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Hey Duke the Series 641 10 Cent is a super high quality note i like
    All 68,s !! The $5 looks ch/unc you might want to send that one in :)
     
  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I'm planning on a bundle of them to be sent in when I see the monthly special on MPC comes around again :D
     
  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Are you a PCGS member? If not i would be more then happy to submit
    Them for you! :)
     
  11. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    No I'm not. Thank you for the offer. They have monthly specials at a discount. It was quite a long time ago they offered something like $8 for any and all MPC's that were submitted that month. But I really don't remember the details. It could have been only for full packs...lol I missed it then but have been looking forward to it coming back around :D
     
  12. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Point in hand mpcusa...

    As we all know that grading is a subjective observation based on guidelines, it is nice to know that +/- 1 to 2 points is a fairly narrow range. I am sure there are case's of true overgrading as we have all read about in the past however this seems not to be the case here.

    Congrats on some fine cross overs.

    RB
     
  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Yeah, i just got in on one of there specials it seems these days its more
    About time then money!! I paid the same price and was upgraded from
    Economy to regular service it,s about a 3 week difference !!
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    When i first saw these notes on e-bay graded 68PPQ i was kind of
    Excited!! But in the back of my mind i knew that the grade would
    Not hold up in a PCGS holder so i accepted 67PPQ and thats a very
    High grade especially in the 25 cent note which is rarer then the
    50 Cent one!

    Am i happy? Overall yes! I got the notes that i wanted at a great
    Price, Actually went 2 for 1 here even with grading fees! :)

    I do have to question the following though, Iam not sure the owner
    And grader of the company should be selling notes, It seems like
    A total conflict of interest!!
     
  15. Payton

    Payton New Member

    I would consider the 1 to 2 point higher grades on the RCGS over PCGS nothing to get ones panties in a bunch. I'm a big fan of PCGS and PMG but who's to has they weren't a tad conservative on these examples.

    Now, when a "grader" grades and sells his own notes........that's another matter and is just so wrong. Not unlike the scum bag former owner of CGX that does the same thing currently. Time out.....had to check my BP. Dangerously high...

    Conflict of interst would be an understatement.

    Also, I believe you have to be a member ($300 membership fee now?) to take advantage of the PCGS specials. Been awhile, I could be wrong.

    To bad CGX doesn't grade MPC and fractionals. You could submit and slip them a C note and get yourself some nice 69 grades! Although in fairness, hopefully those days are gone since March of last year. Let's hope so. Time will tell.
     
  16. connor1

    connor1 Collector

  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"



    Iam actually satisfied with the results, As i pretty much new what i
    Was getting, And i knew that it wouldnt be 68,s !!

    I also found this out about RCGS they have no registry and no
    Population reports !! So you really dont know what your getting
    Or how scarce the note is :(
     
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