Is this natural tonning???

Can someone tell me if this is natural or not?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130386695020&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

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Definitely artificial.

 

Thanks a ton.

 

No problem. This coin is a good example of when chemicals are applied to a coins surface in liquid form to cause toning. They just all seem to have this "look".

 

first of all, what do you think?

For me the seller says it all,

Not sure if it's NT or AT but the I'd be fairly confident to say that the images have been over saturated in a graphic editing program like Photoshop to dramatize the colors, so what you will see in hand is something much less vibrant. The possible image manipulation makes it hard to know if it's NT or AT. I'd personally avoid any seller who appears to manipulate images in such a manner.

 

How do they do that artificialy??

 

Here's one possibility Toning Silver Video

 

That's a good question...

The people who know how to do this aren't telling anyone.

 

And they shouldn't.

Yes AT all the way.

 

I sent him a message about it. I'll post his response.

 

Be interesting to see what he has to say. I've seen 1 slabbed Morgan with rainbow toning that was natural and it certainly did NOT look anything like this one.

 

Looks totally PhotoShopped.

 

Ambrola,

Here's a tip to help you in the future.

Look at that seller's other coins for sale. Although the toning patterns are different on each coin, notice how the colors are the same on every coin. What are the chances that someone has a bunch of naturally toned coins for sale with all the same colors? None.

It's a sure sign they are all being artificially toned by the same process.

(And look at his Completed Listings. Even more of the same colorized junk.)

That tip doesn't help you avoid a seller selling a single artificially toned coin.

But when you see that the majority of a seller's inventory all have the same colors, beware.

 

I find it hard to understand the toning debate. If you are buying a coin because of the color or toning then wouldn't you just buy what you like? I'm sure there is someone else who will also like it be it real or artificial.

How many people can really tell if it is artificial?? I keep keep thinking of the crazy blue jefferson nickel that someone showed on here that looks to me like it has been painted, but is supposedly real toning.

Some people like clean coins and some like original or dark coins. Don't get me wrong I don't want to get screwed or buy something that is misrepresented, but face it, how many people say this coin has been cleaned or whatever. It is usually up to the buyer. And many times people can't agree on what has happened to a coin.

To me toning seems like a different issue than selling a fake. If people want pretty colors then go for it.

Lack

 

If you like it, you should buy it. But it is AT for sure.

 

you are right to a point. I find some AT coins attractive but there are two things that natural toning posses that separate them in my opinion

1.) Ability to be issued a grade by a TPG
2.) History

thats just my opinion.

 

Im not going to dispute that.

But sending a AT coin in and risking that I forfeit the fees for a coin that says genuine doesn't seem like fun

 

To each their own, I guess...

Here is a thread about use of axial lighting on coppers that really is beautiful to me - "toning" or not... http://www.cointalk.com/t104448/