What should I do with this IHC?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by tcarey, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. tcarey

    tcarey Junior Member

    How do I get rid of this green stuff on my IHC? If I am not supposed to clean the coin, what am I supposed to do with the coins that I have acquired that have this on them? Any help is appreciated.
     

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  3. poppa501

    poppa501 older'n dirt

    Looks like PVC deposits. A quick dip in acetone should remove it.
     
  4. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    I prefer not to clean any coins but i agree with poppa looks like pvc verdigris ( which means conservation, not cleaning) and a quick dip in acetone should do the trick. Just remember to rinse with distilled water as the chlorine present in tap water could have adverse effects on the surfaces in the long term.
     
  5. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    that is active PVC.they have PVC remover.
     
  6. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Your coin is the exception to the "Do not clean" rule.

    It does initially look like PVC damage, which can be removed with acetone (not nail polish remover -- get the pure stuff).

    That's an EF/AU coin, and the acetone will set you back a few bucks, so it's up to you whether it's worth it. If you think you might find similar coins in the future, it's definitely worth it.

    Read the MSDS, read the safety instructions, etc., use in a well-ventilated area, and get that nasty stuff off that cent before more damage is done!

    Best of luck.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I am fairly certain that is not PVC, but rather it is corrosion. The color is wrong to be PVC, as is the placement (corrosion typically shows up in the protected areas, where as PVC tends to show up on high points or is more random in its appearance).

    Soak it in acetone (pure), and report back what you find.

    PVC will dissolve in acetone. Corrosion will show little/no effect. Either way, it is virtually certain that soaking that coin in acetone will not make this coin any worse...Mike
     
  8. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I do not believe this is PVC, it is more likely to be verdigris. You can soak in acetone if you like as long as you understand the risks of using acetone and how to use it properly, but you may be able to get more of this off by letting it soak in mineral oil.
     
  9. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    If you got the coin out of a plastic holder it is caused from PVC,the longer it sat there the more the plastic holder "sweat" on the coin,regular corrosion is "dry" green...PVC holders causes a "wet" look from the plastic "sweating" chemicals that do not "bind". Its really sad when you have whole collections in older album holders,only to find they are all like this.
     
  10. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It is important to note that not all plastics will cause PVC damage. A good rule for this is that if the plastic smells like a shower curtain then there is a good chance that it will eventually cause PVC damage.
     
  11. copperwired

    copperwired New Member

    Try soaking it in Coin Care for 1/2 a day.
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  12. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    Will coin care,remove this stuff? I know it has a "lemon" smell,and I know its like a "conditioner" But I have no clue what its actually good for?
     
  13. copperwired

    copperwired New Member

    Its good for removing verdigris off copper.
     
  14. tcarey

    tcarey Junior Member

    Thanks for all the replies. I pulled it out of an old book. I am not saying it has never been in plastic, but I know it was sitting in the coin book for at least 20 years. I will see what I can do with the Acetone and then Coin Care. It might take a week or so before I get all the supplies, but once I do, I will report back. Thanks again for the advice...
     
  15. hey guys do the newer airtites have pvc in them?
     
  16. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    Im not sure if some people know this,but verdigris is "PVC" on copper.verdigris a green pigment that forms on copper,and attacks it physical properties. it can contain "Copper chloride" PVC is Polyvinyl Chloride.Polyvinyl Chloride is vinyl polymer constructed of repeating vinyl groups,having one of their hydrogens replaced with a chloride group,It is the "chloride group" that effects the copper,the Chloride being an "additive" to the vinyl,does not "bond" long term.epically in humid environments,it "sweats" out of the vinyl,and reacts to the copper coin creating "Verdigris" the green goo.
     
  17. copperflopper

    copperflopper Junior Member

    Air Tites are Acrylic plastic no PVC same type of plastic all slabs are made of.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That's new to me. Not sure I can agree with that.
     
  19. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    unfortunately you cannot disagree with scientific fact.

    PVC=polyvinyl Chloride-minus-Polyviny=chloride

    penny=copper copper+chloride=copper chloride,which=verdigris
     
  20. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    Sounds like this is a job for... :loud:SuperThad!

    -LTB
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I still don't agree.
    Please tell us why PVC will come off with acetone but verdigris will not?
     
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