1852 and 1831 large cents

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by skaskankerbr, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. skaskankerbr

    skaskankerbr Junior Member

    got these two coins for 15$ total off ebay from a 5000+ 100% feedback seller...
    but i weighed them and.. well they are alittle light.
    The 1852 was 10.1-3 grams
    the 1831 was 9.9-10.2grams.
    the second coin that wasn't that bad due to the wear, but the first is xf-au??

    I want to know
    1 what is your opinion on authenticity
    2 if you think it is real. Grade?
    3 Value.
    photo time
    go to the coin talk album through this link to see all the photos
    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v161/smmonkeyt/cointalk pictures/

    here is an example of the first coin see the rest at the link above.
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  3. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Here are the specs that I was able to dig-up online. I do not have any of my books handy - I'm at an internet cafe tonight:

    MATRON HEAD Variety, 1816 - 1835
    Designer: Robert Scot
    Diameter: 28-29 mm or 1-1/8"
    Weight: 10.89 grams or 168 grains

    YOUNG HEAD Variety, 1835 - 1857
    Designer: Christian Gobrecht
    Diameter: 27.5 mm
    Weight: 10.89 grams or 168 grains

    That said, perhaps guidance from someone about what known variances were for weight for those series would be helpful?
     
  4. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Both coins appear genuine, but both have been cleaned very harshly and the 1852 is corroded to all heck and back consistent with a coin that was dug out of the ground and then scrubbed up to take off the flaking corrosion. I think they are real.
     
  5. i agree with tom b
     
  6. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    That you mentioned digging coins out of the ground... started surfing around to get more info about coin shooting... very looks tempting
     
  7. skaskankerbr

    skaskankerbr Junior Member

    sorry for reviving this thread, but i was on a trip to the national DECA convention and my question of value has still not been answered.
     
  8. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    I think people were trying to be nice and avoid the answer because your not going to be happy with it.

    Current value for the 2 Cents. $15.00 set by you.

    Me, a collector of said cents wouldn't pay what you paid for them. The 53 is a dig coin, alot of debris on the coin even though it does have some detail the corrosion would hold it low in value, the 1831, AG. Now, if you try to sell them for that to somebody else, that might be a trick. :whistle:
     
  9. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    If you are interested in pursuing numismatics, this book may be helpful :)

    Grading Coins by Photographs, Q. David Bowers, Whitman Publishing, ISBN: 978-0794827014

    I have a copy of the book as a supplement to my numismatic library, and you may find that it assists you in evaluating specimens that are up for online auction.

    Good luck :)
     
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