Counterfeit Clipped Planchets

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  1. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    Hello, I was wondering how to tell a genuine clipped planchet from a fake.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    First of all.. Planchets that are missing an area aren't clipped. They are actually Incomplete.
    When the planchets were being punched out from the stock sheet they would sometimes not advance foward correctly so the next planchet would be cut to close to the previous cut hole.

    The call them clipped but they aren't.

    Fake ones are made where someone actually alters a coin by cutting off some metal.

    One answer to your question.. They should have the same curve as another same denomination.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Most will show a the Blakesley effect.
    Which is weak details opposite the clip.
     
  5. Oldhoopster

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  6. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    A clipped planchet should have a "cut & shear" edge on the part that is missing.
    Any design features near the clip should taper away toward the edge that is missing.
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  7. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Can also be a thickening of the rim opposite of the "void". Polish_20201020_214939906~4.jpg Polish_20200706_203605046~3.jpg Polish_20200706_203605046~4.jpg
     
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  9. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Clips as they are commonly called are actually incomplete planchet errors. There are many kinds, curved, straight, etc. one way to tell us to place the same type of coin into the missing area on curved ones.
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  11. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    This is not always true. The clip can change shape due to metal flow. In fact, straight clips can wind up looking curved, and curved clips can appear straight. They can also become warped.
     
  12. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    This! There are some really complicated clips out there!! Understanding how different shapes will be impacted by the upset mill (i.e., turning Type 1 blanks into Type 2 planchets), is key.

    Usually, my eyes go to where the rim runs into the clip (gap). Those rims will dovetail in from the fields. There are exceptions, of course, such as a coin sheared apart by the collar die, or an incomplete punched planchet coming apart when the coin is struck, but note that those are much scarcer.
     
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