Not exactly. You can easily find many examples from, say, 1920 that have the same patina or coloration as ones from 1950. As a matter of fact, you can even find examples from the 80's & 90's with similar patina, so you can't conclude that because the coins are dated 1941 that the damage was caused in 1941. Of course, you can't rule out the possibility that one of the rolling machines, circa 1941, caused the damage, but in all likelihood, there were probably hundreds of these machines being used across the country, and if they were properly maintained, they could have a useful life of 50 or more years. It's merely conjecture to assume that the same machine caused the damage. If the manufacturing specifications were followed, it is more likely that every machine produced by the same company caused the same kind of damage. Chris Chris
"That" isn't a dealer. "That's" a fleabay lowlife. If I had been a dealer, which I am not, I would have been insulted.:computer: Chris
I see that by injecting a bit of humor into the melee, all has not gone well. And I do collect coins that are dirty, cruddy & crusty. Happy Collecting.
but I'm sure you do not collect them BECAUSE they are dirty, cruddy and crusty, and you certainly don't pay a premium for the crud.
Hey, as a "hobbyist", I appreciate any humor that can be mustered. Maybe I am not taking all this seriously enough ? LOL Of course, I am just "passing time" here. Many of the guys are trying to make some money and I certainly don't want to interfere with that. But I am under the illusion that there aren't many fortunes won playing penny slots or selling pennies for a profit. Somehow, I have a feeling larger denominations are an easier route ? Why do something that is no longer fun ?
I think there would probably have been much more humor apparent if we only had a good set of emoticons. (Insert ROFL here) As it were, many of the statements made have probably been misinterpreted. I, too, fail to see the relationship between "damaged" and "dirty, cruddy & crusty". Perhaps the OP should have chosen his words more carefully, but please don't take it personally. Chris
To me it sounds like this "dealer" doesn't know his backside from a post hole; also like his intelligence level is on the south side of 'E'.
I have one of those slanted 41's and had also posted a thread a while back. I still can't believe a machine can do that damage, but this community gave very convincing arguments on what happened. So, it is in a 2 x 2 as a keeper for me, regardless of what caused the 1 to slant.
I think I will follow your lead. Like I have been saying, it is definitely more interesting than all the other 1941's in the jar.
That's what I was saying. Isn't it neat that they are all so close to the same ? In fact I saw the 1921 that was posted and thinking about trying to get one of each decade. Put it together in a flip page for a display. I certainly cannot afford to collect Morgans. LOL But I might be able to sell a couple of proof halves to pay for the entire collection ? Just a thought
BadThad...those are some dramatic images of a "Super Slanter" Pretty obvious that last digit has been physically dislodged through some type of force, presumably after the minting process. Thanks for adding. Happy Collecting
Yes, I have apologized for doing that 3 or 4 times already. I was looking at the pics of some coins in another window when I typed in the title of the thread. I was a stupid mistake. I really don't know how to edit it out. If you can tell me how, I would be very glad to correct it. Thanks