1854-D $3 gold coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by zekeguzz, Apr 10, 2010.

  1. giorgio11

    giorgio11 Senior Numismatist

    If it's real, it's worth the money! SEND IT IN!
     
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  3. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    OKAY! Sorry I lost my train of thought. Monday I call and talk to a representative about joining up and hpow to submit all three. Thanks everyone for keeping my sights fixed on the final target. But don't forget these coins aren't mine, they're my friend's coins.
    Just some trivia. I compared my pics/scans with PCGS pics of the 1854-D and I swear my freind's $3 coin is better that their AU-50. Has better and more hairlines. More outline in the knots above the feathers. And clear as day you can see the eyeball with the bulge of the iris. Doubling is prevalent on TED in UNITED. On the reversre the leaves have more and clearer veins. The tobaco and cornstalks are more defined and the top beady blossoms of corn are sharper too. Oh well we'll see what NGC has to say.
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Good luck!

    They are very friendly and helpful people and they will get you squared away.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Zeke, any dealers in your neck o' the woods associated with NGC or PCGS? You might take some of the hassle out of submitting by letting them submit the coins for you. Just a thought. :)
     
  6. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    Wow, just saw this thread, very cool find!! Definitely submit them for authentication. If your a member of the ANA I'm pretty sure you can submit to NGC w/o a separate membership w/ NGC.

    Good luck and keep us posted!!!
     
  7. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Let me run this by you everyone. I want to join NGC and I'll go for the ' Elete' membership. Then, can I submit the coins in my friend's name. If this isn't allowed, how then, do I get these coins tranferred in his name when everything is said and done and the slabbed coins are in my hands and registered to me? I sure don't want my name associated with them since I'm not the owner. I hope y'all follow what I just said.
     
  8. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    The 1853 $1 gold liberty head with coronet still has some (3) spots with PVC on the reverse. After a 20 minuet acetone soak, then days later a 10 minuet soak. See scans. I don't want to hurt this coin so should I continue with short soaks or give it another 20 minuet soak. I have NO experience with soaking coins in acetone. Gold is suppose to be inert. Will
    it react with the acetone to the point the finish/luster is ruined?
     

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  9. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Does anyone no if thse, the above PVC scans, will detract from the coins final grade? Look at the scan below and on the top left of the bow is the third PVC spot which has been greatly reduced with the two soaks.
     

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  10. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Just send it in.
     
  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Good there's a place to show off my new (old and worn) gold Liberty piece that I'm still waiting to receive. Plenty worn but that's alright, I'm working myself up to something nicer.

    BTW: Very nice $3 dollar gold piece!! I have to wait a long time to get something that nice as them there gold pieces go for the major scrillage!! :D
     

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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Indeed, we are in agreement.....:D
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Have no fear. You can leave it in the acetone overnight if you wish.
     
  14. giorgio11

    giorgio11 Senior Numismatist

    If you join NGC you can submit coins, it doesn't necessarily mean that you own them and far as I know there is no "association" record kept, they just record the grade, cert no, etc. All you do is list the coin, date, mintmark, etc and choose the grading service you want and estimated value. Hope this helps ...
     
  15. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    THANKS again! I joined NGC and have the forms in front of me and will be mailing them out today, with $3 coin well protected, by registered insured
    mail. --------------------zeke
     
  16. giorgio11

    giorgio11 Senior Numismatist

    Woo-hoo! I can't wait to hear the outcome ... I hope you get that AU50 you seem to be aiming for ... regardless of the grade, if it comes back graded (genuine, in other words, and no problems), you (your friend) have a Real Winner! Good luck!
     
  17. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Hey THANKS. I 'll be pretty disappointed if it doesn't grade that. I've compared dozens of pictures of $3 coins and I stand on my very amatuer grading techniques. I've leaned so much about this coin and various other $3 in the 1850 - 1880's . Really shouldn't compare other years to 1854-D but in general, diagnostics are similar. But it is unique and has its own design characteristics.
     
  18. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Okay, after mailing the 1854-D $3 dollar gold coin on Apil 27, 2010, last Tuesday, I got a USPSnotice that it has been delivered to the post office of The Collector's Society. That's zip code 34230. It doesn't mean that they
    have received it or That it was put in their P O Box. Man, six days seemed like a lifetime.
    Before sending it by registered mail and insured to the max, my friend came over with his brand new digital micrometer and we measured all three coins and reweighed them too because he wasn't there when I weighed them the fist time. Everything checked out very, very close.
    I have been comparing any $3 '54-D I could find. PCGS, NGC, Heritage, even ebay when pics or scans were decent. What differences in grading there is. I sure hope that I don't disagree with the grade it gets. I'm telling you it is an above average coin. At least EF-45, with a great chance to be graded AU-55 or 58, from the tens of tens of them I've compared.
    STANDBY for the news, good or bad. zeke
     
  19. panda

    panda Junior Member

    i can not wait till you post the results!

    i hope your friend gives you a nice cut, if he sells them!
     
  20. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    No, I don't want anything from him. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity and exciting as any thriller movie or book checking it out.
    Here I am a LMC man and this comes along. There's no describing it.
    Panda you'll be the 2nd to know. Maybe I'll PM you first,








    zeke
     
  21. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    any news yet!!!
     
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