Guess the grade # 3 1913 Quarter Eagle

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  1. Mark T

    Mark T Junior Member

    Guess the grade on this 1913 Quarter Eagle.
    These are always a challenge to grade and very difficult to grade from a photo.
    Feel free to post any comments as to why you gave the coin a specific grade.
    This coin is CAC certified.
     

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  3. mill rat41

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  4. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Will go with MS-64 Looks like a nice one :)
     
  5. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna say 62 seems like a lot of marks on the obv.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Aside from a few small marks in the obverse field, a see nothing detracting. The devices appear bold and strong and the piece seems to exhibit much in the way of luster....ms-65. :)
     
  7. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    I've never been able to grade these well, maybe I should post mine and get a better idea.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Me neither. :) Go ahead, take a stab at it......
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Looks like a solid 64 to me.
     
  10. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    I could be wrong, but it looks like there is some light wear; So I'll go with AU-58.
     
  11. fishfinder

    fishfinder Junior Member

    I'd give it MS-63.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Based on the pics, if it was me grading I'd have to say 53. There is just too much luster missing all over the coin, even the fields. But because it is relatively clean I'd guess that PCGS said 55.
     
  13. sunflower

    sunflower New Member

    From a first time grader...

    Au-55, and maybe Au-58. I does not looked polished to me. I don't know about cleaned? I see a little luster-what I think of as mint state luster. My first impression was MS-63, but then I magnified the pic and opened my Red Book. Is it a choice unc. MS63?

    I will be conservative.....Au-58. (I was not able to locate a mint mark).
     
  14. Mark T

    Mark T Junior Member

    Ok after seeing someone call this an Au 53 I thought to myself I should post the grade.
    GDJMSP – even with the compressed photos you should be able to see a lot of luster on this coin . The surface of this coin is pretty much mark free with the exception of some minor marks on the reverse and even less on the obverse. The strike is sharp .
    I bought this raw for $ 400 on EBAY 2 years ago. PCGS certified it as MS 64 and CAC gave it a green bean. Needless to say I was very lucky.
     

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  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Read 'em and weep, boys. :eek:hya:
     
  16. sunflower

    sunflower New Member

    Thanks for posting the grading opportunity. I am only learning. I did not intend to trash your coin.-Thanks.
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Mark, From the looks of the coins you posted thusfar, I think luck had little to do with it. :) Take care...Mike
     
  18. Mark T

    Mark T Junior Member

    I happen to have a Au 55 Quarter Eagle that was graded by PCGS and subsequently certified by CAC. I bought this one raw as well . There is a huge difference between this coin and the 1913 MS 64.
     

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  19. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    For those who have trouble with this series, you have to pay close attention to the luster in the fields. MS coins have luster that is readily apparent and even MS coins (particularly 61 to 64) have some rub in the fields. AU coins generally have little or no luster left in the fields. I think that the incuse nature of the coin and the different wear/luster patterns throw most people off when grading these coins. As such, they are among the most difficult to grade. All of the above IMO...MIke
     
  20. Mark T

    Mark T Junior Member



    Mike this was more luck then anything else. Thank you for the compliments on my coins.
    Long story short. I picked the 1913 up on EBAY from Saratoga Springs .
    It was August of 2008 , I think either a lot of people were on vacation or no one was paying attention as the auction on the coin had little activity. I thought it was probably at least MS 62 so I bid accordingly. Usually their coins get bid up so I was surprised I won it for $ 400. Their description even said that this coin was one of the best they had seen. When I received the coin I noticed it was rather nice so I took it into my local dealer for an assessment. He is very conservative and thought it was an MS 63 . Well it came back from PCGS as an MS 64 . I took it to Coin Fest where CAC certified it . I had a chance to talk with Bill Shamhart about all the coins I brought in for CAC to look at. He called this particular coin a high end MS 64. The luster on this coin is outstanding , my pictures can not do the coin justice as it is one of those you need to see in hand to really appreciate.
     
  21. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts


    uncle please explain the pcgs 64 :D
     
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