a No Motto Saint for Ye Olde Type Set

I've wanted a NM Saint for a long time, there seem to be bazillions of the 1908 issue, thanks to Ron Gillio and the WF "hoard." I ran across this one which I think is pretty nice at a fair price. Guess the grade if you like.

 

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That is pretty and well struck 66

 

I see a solid MS65

 

I am at 64.
What a Beauty!

 

Bag rub/marks preclude "Gem condition"! Nice MS64!

 

Although very true. There are many that would call rubs on the highpoints from stacking and perfectly acceptable in Gem and Premium Gem.

 

MS-64

 

Here is a believed lustrous, correctly graded MS64 coin posted by @johnmilton, sans the rub/marks, flattened torch/forehead/fingers, rim damage? which "many" would say constitutes "Gem", and even MS66+ as I've posted here, that don't coincide with written grade definition for MS65 condition.

JMHO

 

Thanks for the comments and guesses, the grade is...

 

I believe that as several of us have indicated, relative to current grading standards, the coin meets MS64 criteria.

The coin presented as a past MS64 specimen should thus currently be graded 1-2 grades greater.

JMHO

 

This coin is apparently NOT a member of the WF Hoard.

 

I did think it looked better than typical. Why my grade. Probably a 66 wf hoard. Which is a 64 or s otherwise

 

Thats only if you agree on their terminology.

 

I don't think it could get an MS-66. MS-65 it would be weak for the grade but I could see that sticking. But not 66.

 

I agree; there is too much fine chatter in the fields for a 66 (doesn't show up too well in my pics); I could see a 65 but probably no bean.

 

At any rate, it’s a nice coin. Congratulations!