Old Coin....Please Look

Can somebody identify this coin ??? thanks

 

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This coin appears to be a Maria Theresa variant, and its obverse wording and obverse design doesn't look like one of the common silver thalers.

The most widely known and minted is the thaler (even up to the present day, in Turkey I believe), but the thaler I'm picturing consists of an alloy of mainly silver and a little bit of copper. Your coin appears to be [primarily] copper.

I believe the obverse legend says "M. THERES D. G. R. IMP.HU.BO. REG"

Translation: M. Theresa, Deus Gratia or by the grace of G-D, Empress of the Holy Roman Empire, Hungary and Bohemia

You may want to see if there's still discernible writing on the edge that looks like CLEMENTIA IUSTITIA (with mercy and justice).

If you could publish its weight in grams, and diameter in mm, that would also be helpful

 

the coin has like 30 mm diameter..i don't know the weight yet...is genuine?...it's worth something?....thank you

 

Looks like a neat coin, Only if it could be in a little better condition

 

30mm diameter means it's probably not a thaler - at least the thalers that I'm familiar with. The thalers that I am familiar with are around 39mm in diameter.

I'm unable to comment on it's genuineness and worth. More information, as well as attribution, would need to be ascertained.

 

I'm updating my ebook library with the 1701-1800 Krause , I'll have information for you later on if it hasn't been posted.

 

ok...i will wait for your reply..thanks

 

Looks like a Poltura of Hungary. Date unreadable, but should be 1763-1766. All dates list at $3 in VG,

 

You are looking at the wrong bust , this has to be a veiled bust like KM#391

Most likely you have the 1775 Poltura , VG is 5$

 

According to Krause KM#391 has a different legend than this coin and the 1775 date is in the legend near the rim. This coin shows a partial date '6' to the right on the reverse.

Here's a 377.1: http://cgi.ebay.com/1765-Maria-Theresa-Copper-Poltura-Coin-Kremnitz-VF_W0QQitemZ110514646589

and a 391 here: http://alturl.com/46oi

 

The bust type is all wrong for 377.1 , you can clearly see a veil = 1775 KM# 391

 

I also don't see the 6

 

Not the same coin. On this specimen, THERES is on the right on the bust, rather than OP's specimen, whereby THERES is on the left of the bust.

IMO, very close, if not the same.

 

Friendly FYI... I believe that pursuant to Numismatic Notes and Monographs, No 135, Colonial Coinage for Colonial Virginia, pg.33, Eric P. Newman, (c)1956, a 1763 1-Poltura specimen of this [apparent] type was unearthed during the restoration of Colonial Williamsburg.