V Nickel Reverse Error?

I was wondering if anyone might have an answer to this thread. I have collected coins for over 20 years now and I have never seen anything like this. Not to long ago I had purchased a bag of Liberty V Nickels form an estate auction. As I was sorting through the coins I noticed one with a defected Reverse. I thought maybe it was just corrosion eating away at the coin but upon closer inspection I noticed that defect was behind the strike of the coin. If it were corrosion then wouldn't it be on everything? The only thing I can come up with is either the coin was struck once with a different die then re-struck again or there was something on the planchet before the coin was struck. I've looked everywhere for this defect or error and have been unable to locate any information on it. Any information and maybe the value of this type of defect or error would be greatly appreciated. The pictures or attachments are below. Thanks.

 

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Strange... it almost looks like a dug coin, but none of the devices appear to be affected.

It could be restruck over another coin, but I wouldn't think the devices would be as struck up as they are. Would they? I dunno.

 

Dunno either but i like it, Very unique

 

I'd be interested in hearing the results of this one. The background "image" looks too random to be the strike of another coin.

 

Pretty wild, if I were to bet I would say a mint worker got bored. I like it...

 

Maybe we can get an expert in here and give us more info!! Would really
Like to here the results

 

I was able to zoom way in using Ctrl++, it almost looks like the field was crystallized, this is quite an enigma.

 

wow that is really unique. I have no idea what would cause that.

 

That is quite an interesting coin! I'm looking forward to our expert's opinions.

bob

 

Any experts around? I'm still looking for info on it and unable to find anything. If this is unique what do you think the value would be considering there is nothing out there to compare it to? If I contacted the Mint and sent them the scans would they be able to give me information on this type? I imagine they already get alot of emails and I might not even get a reply.

 

Give the experts a day or so. They'll get around here soon enough. I doubt the Mint would be any help at all to you. They could care less about such things. As for value, I think the answer is going to be more academic than valuable.

 

Cool. Thanks everyone. I'll check back later on for any updated info. Happy hunting.

 

While you are waiting, can you explain the origin of your name "Bone dust."

Very intriguing

 

Hello everyone,

I looked at the reverse (I am not an expert), and there appears to be a pattern, though very hard to make out. I too will be watching to see what the experts say on this as well.

Regards,
Stan

 

Hehe. I stole this user name from an unknown rock band back in Indiana about maybe 10 years ago. Unfortunately others are using it now so most of the time its bonedust143845 etc...... or any other number that's somehow not taken. I was lucky to get this one on here! :kewl:

 

HHHmmmm. I'm still looking up stuff. Hey, I was wondering... could this be massive lamination due to impurities or trapped gas that may have happened before the planchet was struck? If so... then that would show why the strike is fine. I saw a Canadian Quarter that had lamination on the planchet " Just a lil bit " before it was struck and it kinda looks like the same thing... but like Coinman1974 said, I'm kind of seeing patterns too.... like a bunch of leaves. Some look the same just different sizes. I'm stumped. :hammer: :goofer:

 

Measure the coins dia. and weight it. also check to see what countries the US minted coins for in that time peroid. It may have been struck in the press and was hit with two different dies. just some thoughts of mine.

 

The diameter is the same as a regular v nickel. Unfortunately I only have a weigher for ounces at the moment. The U.S. Mint made currency for the Dominican Republic (1897-1981), Ecuador (1895-1946), and Venezuela (1876-1958). I searched for coin pictures of the era and couldn't find anything that resembles whats on the reverse of the V-Nickel, but then again I couldn't find very many pictures either.

 

Hi,

I can't tell what is going on from the images. This is one that would have to be examined carefully to see if all that "static" is an underlying design of some sort. In theory on an overstrike, most of the underlying devices would be nearly obliterated by the strike of the V nickel so I lean away from that as a possibility.

I can't say for sure what happened to it. It could be anything from damage to something good

Thanks,
Bill

 

Hello again everyone,

I have been staring at this anomaly. Trying to find a pattern, with a fellow collector. He is under the impression it is lamination, but has as much knowledge and experience in this as I do.

I decided to take a close look at the obverse as well as the reverse, just to see if that could tell us anything. There are a few questionable areas. I looked at the coin at 4x the size to see if anything came out that was obvious. i found nothing. The pictures below I will explain, with hopes that it will lead to a conclusion.

Also I have added the definition of de-lamination for everyone to consider. However I am as clueless as everyone else.

I will start with the infamous reverse.

The first picture is of the "S" in "Cents" on the reverse. You can see the crack appears to go under the letter. Also it appears that the letter is incomplete along this same "fault?"

The second picture shows the same feature in the left portion of the ribbon above the word "CENT" look at the letters in view, you can make out what appears to be a crescent from the "U" in united, through both the "Period", and "C" up toward and through the ribbon, which has a "crack" over the "fault?".

The 3rd picture I looked at to see any discernible features. The "V" appears mostly intact, with few possible indentations over areas of the depressions in the field. Otherwise it looks complete.

The fourth is on the obverse, which in the neck area has an interesting mark, missing metal, depression, etc? This could even be a hieroglyphic, lol. I looked at this to see again if any discernible features could tell us anything.

The last picture, again on the reverse, at about 1 o'clock above the head, is of one of the stars. You can see there appears to be an indentation at the bottom of the star, over what appears to be missing metal in the field.

I am not sure if any of this is going to help come to a solid conclusion, though I do hope so. :thumb:

For future reference I will be stalking this thread for an answer to this anomaly. If any conclusion comes from this
I will have to retract my initial claim to a pattern. :crying:...IMHO

Regards,
Stan







delamination
Metal missing (or nearly so) from the surface due to incomplete bonding in the planchet.