Any $20 LIBERTY Collectors out there, I have the fever !

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  1. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I like the coins, but information and posts are rarer than Saints.

    I do want to get a few of them in coming months.
     
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  3. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’ve bought and sold quite a few $20s. I’d like to have a few in my safe again. What I’d really like is a high relief Saint
     
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  4. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I have a FEVER. and the prescription is MORE COWBELL!!
     
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  5. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Me too ! :D

    Have you seriously looked at them, or seen the pricing for various grades ?
     
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  6. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Would agree on that, its easier and less expensive on the Saint side and for obvious
    reasons there not as old and you can find them in the 64-66 range very easily in comparison.
     
  7. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Two good sources of information on Liberty Double Eagles are David Bowers book which also covers Saint-Gaudens DEs (the Red Book by Whitman)...and a very expensive book by Bowers called "U. S. Liberty Head $20 Double Eagles: The Gilded Age of Coinage."

    It's a hardcover book and pretty pricey if you can find it.
     
  8. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Thanks for the info on the books, have you converted those coins yet that you were
    gifted by Mom and Dad ?
     
  9. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Not recently but a few years ago I could get a nice one for $12-14k
     
  10. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I haven't but am thinking about doing it.
     
  11. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I tracked the AU-58's assiduosly for years....was just about to drop below $10K when you had the pandemic rise. Closer to $12K now.
     
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  12. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Sentimental value is always of great importance :)
     
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  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    yeah I see that. I could have bought a 63-64 for $18-20 a few years back. Would have been a good investment.
     
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  14. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    If I do it, let's assume I get about $3,400 for the 2 coins.

    What year/condition should I consider ? I'm not interested in 2 circulated worn pieces. Rather get 1 nice one. Have to do some research on the common or semi-common years/mintmarks and which ones I can get in MS-65 or higher.
     
  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    the easy answer is a 1904 very common in high grades if you scan the popular
    websites such as APMEX, Liberty coin and LCR as a good selection but I have not bought from them yet, so not sure how good they are, going to look for my next GOLD purchase right now and I will let you know what I find, as far as condition goes I would for sure consider A/U 53 - 58 many liberties I have found dont have M/S grades or 61 -62 which I would not recommend many are pretty scratched up
    and I wouldn't consider them basically they have a little more luster but who cares
    if it not an attractive coin, will go hunting right now and let you know what I find :)
     
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  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I forgot to ask whats your budget ?, I will just throw some ones out for you to consider :)
     
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  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    PCGS or NGC or doesn't matter ? PCGS slabs are a little more money most of the time, just depends.
     
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  18. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    shot around a little at APMEX found a 1900 M/S 65 for $5779 and a lot of 1904,s
    in M/S 65 in the 4 - 5 K range.
     
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  19. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    Your best investment value probably would be in a nice 1904, or if found at a comparable price, a 1900 or older, in MS62 grade, preferably without extensive bag marks and "rub"!

    The last link shown below is a "better date" and condition 1907-S D.E., offered at ~C.D.N. "Grey Sheet".

    One grade above has an ~$2000 greater wholesale value!

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...=0&_odkw=20+gold+double+eagle+ms+65&_osacat=0

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...=20+liberty+gold+double+eagle+ms+65&_osacat=0

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/125480400026?hash=item1d3736f49a:g:cbQAAOSwPONjBmY4&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAA8MheV3Gzj33mePTK3rAHgrCT0/t52lYlxBLU/huf7wEn6KjytC2CFhiCkuZ0hsrw/sRXqdLp1YG/MfW48+gq1FjxxT051A9dkmrWKty7UfWJ1SrRBLpG2ITZQ6sQDRQsFRsll1VxmCZnz96vdGbnUUtU5FLOKtVHqswKBW/JSOzVHRW3fO23jj1EZnSu8jIFo7CkfX8LVs6hOaPhuI6FBLwHwhUpD8xN1uzNqyExTxC/83QvVZfL4xBuzCdgLZFEDCK1S9QD/0FPbXiIOXu19HD97cTCF6ZdSVipV7qVseytc7xz88J7fxvEcoZs+wiqVg==|tkp:Bk9SR5CKve7tYA
     
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  20. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Wow, the price really jumps for the Liberty commons relative to the Saint common years, huh ?

    Yeah, the 1904 is always there....surprised the 65 grade costs that much. Maybe I'll look for a really nice 1800's Liberty in AU-58.
     
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  21. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Thanks IM, ....what do you think about going down to the AU-58 level to get an older coin from the 1800's ?

    BTW...I know there are about 3.9 million known survivors of Saint-Gaudens DEs...how many is the total for ALL Liberty DEs ?
     
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