German nazi coins- Where to buy them?

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  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    There a great part of history :)
     
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  3. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Do you suggest that folks not collect coins from any era that involved the suffering of others?

    Anyways, if you don't like them, don't collect them. And don't insult others by saying that just because they have a country or a historical era in their coin collection, that they are into 'disaster porn'.
     
  4. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Based on Blueindian65's comment, he suggests we not collect coins from any era that involved the suffering of others.

    Oh wait...

    The US North and the US South were involved in a war that involved slavery not too long ago, so we'd better not collect any of those coins... And let's not forget the Indian Wars, or the Japanese internment camps from WWII...

    Collect Russian coins from the Stalin era? Forget about it!!! Better get rid of those too! Not only was he complicit with the Germans during the initial part of WWII, but scholars agree he was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of Russians during the course of his leadership. Can't collect Imperialist Russia either - the suffering of the serfs...

    Stop collecting all those Italian coins too! Remember that Roman Empire thingy and their wars with everyone..? And oh yeah, Italy was complicit with the Nazis too.

    And of course there's that war mongering Napoleon, so hands off on all the coins from the French and the Napoleonic era - we all know the suffering that Napoleon inflicted on the people and countries he invaded...

    And let's not forget modern China (not the counterfeits). Mao killed something like 30 million people... can't collect Chinese coins either...

    And then we got the U.K. due to colonialism, slavery, conscription... Spain due to Francisco Franco and Nazi complicity... Australia due to Aboriginal Re-Education... Greeks due to slavery... the list goes on and on and on...

    Better toss all of those coins in the crucible!

    Oh, and one last thing, "Blueindian65". Unless you're part Native American or Asian Indian, I find your nickname insulting, as that disparaging term embodies the suffering of the Native American people!
     
  5. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Nazi German"s allies: Hungary, Italy, Finland, Slovakia, Croatia, Japan, State of France (Vishy). Becides, Spain - neutral fascist"s state. Nazi Estonia & Latvia...
    I have coins of these countries. But I don"t like fascism.
     
  6. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    That's gonna be a helluva big ingot.
     
  7. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Discussions about nazi coins come up here very often, and it almost always works this way: Somebody says why Third Reich coinage is so extremely attractive and interesting, somebody else says, how dare you, they are evil, and then maybe somebody writes that many countries have to some extent had their evil periods. (Yes, I know, this is the short version. ;) ) That does not really explain though why so many in the US (maybe elsewhere too, but this is a primarily American forum) find nazi coins so fascinating.

    Christian
     
  8. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    Replace "nazi" with any other group/country/etc. Same answer.
     
  9. boxerchip

    boxerchip Runnin' Buffalo


    I like Germany, I like German history, and the swastika is a symbol of good luck- one crazy man wont change what a symbol means to me. I think if anything you are honoring his terror 70 years later by being so scared of anything from that time period. I dont get any feeling from the coins, im not a neo nazi or a skin head, I simply like the history, symbol(and no im not going to feel guilty for liking a cool symbol that has meant good look for thousands of years prior to nutty mcnutterson), and the writing on the side of the coin. In addition to that I can afford to buy these coins, so thats nice too. As far as passover and Easter, I dont know what those religious holidays have to do with my coin collecting- I meant no offense and if you took some I apologize.
     
  10. boxerchip

    boxerchip Runnin' Buffalo


    haha +1 I am not into "disaster porn" I just like the coins.
     
  11. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Definitely not. I'm German, and when it comes to coins from around here, I collect primarily the pieces from my country (Federal Republic of Germany) plus euro coins plus various others - listing them would take too long. :) And I also have a few pieces from other or older Germanies, so to say - monarchy, Weimar Republic, Nazi Germany, GDR ... And guess what, most Americans I know or have exchanged coins with are interested in precisely one period only. May not be a statistically accurate mix but is just my personal observation. So when I say I could offer coins from this country or maybe the GDR (East G. until 1990), I often get "nah, but what about nazi coins?" back. Hmm.

    Christian
     
  12. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    My point was that if you replace the word "nazi" with any other topic, someone will collect it, and the reasons for collecting are the same.

    The point was not that only ignorant morons collect nazi coins.
     
  13. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Yeah, hmm, and so what. The United States had 1,100,683 casualties in WWII. Which means that war touched the lives of nearly every American. And given that a lot of Americans over the age of 35 have a living (or relatively recently deceased, in a historical context) relative directly affected by that war, there would be some interest in possessing items that were associated with that era - including those of the foe.

    In addition, a lot of modern history was affected by the outcome of that war, which had a direct impact on the U.S. A good text that discusses the historical context of the outcome was recently published, including Nazi Germany's role in the origin of the Cold War: The Cambridge History of the Cold War, Vols I-III, Melvyn Leffler and Odd Westad, Cambridge University Press, 2009.

    The Soviets were our foe during the Cold War, and a lot of numismatic interest exists because of this, yet you don't hear people screaming about those collectors being Stalin-Lovers or communists! And many historians argue that the Soviets systematically killed a lot more people than the Germans did.
     
  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    So it's in bad taste to collect coins from regimes that killed millions of people? Well there goes the U.S., Roman, Russia, China, etc...

    Guess its Canadian only from now on! loonies and toonies forever!
     
  15. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    Canada's been right there in most conflicts. They suffered more deaths as a ratio of population than the US in WWII.
     
  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Well played se-collectibles.
     
  17. se-collectibles

    se-collectibles Collector Extraordinaire

    I think you misunderstood; that wasn't a shot at you, that was "ok, so what CAN we collect??"

    Maybe I should have just said that...:mad:
     
  18. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I know it wasn't a shot! :thumb:

    As a side note, I actually bought 2 nazi coins (50pf) yesterday. :headbang:
     
  19. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Maybe George Carlin should have had a list of 7 coins you can't collect in public.
     
  20. FreezerBurn

    FreezerBurn Member

    I was just on the cheapslabs.com site to see if they still had lots of 3rd Reich minors for sale. Sadly they do not, but you might check them occasionally because their inventory changes a lot. To fill in my German coins, a small part of my World coin collection, I went looking for multiple coin lots and found what I was looking for at cheapslabs.com. No politics, just a nice selection of denominations, dates and mintmarks at a reasonable price.
     
  21. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Sure, see my previous post. http://www.cointalk.com/showpost.php?p=852936&postcount=16

    Probably because the number of those collectors in the US is much smaller than the number of those who collect nazi coins. (Don't have any statistics at hand, I am just judging by posts I see here and in other forums.) And of course collecting coins that in a way represent a political system or ideology does by itself not mean the collector supports that system. Or else there would be numerous Robert Mugabe fans among paper money collectors ...

    Christian
     
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