2009 Sacagawea Mint Mark in different locations on edge?

Hi,

First post, so I apologize if this was detailed elsewhere. I tried searching, but had no luck.

Anyway, my son got a couple of 2009 D Sacagawea dollars today, and we noticed that the "D" is in different locations relative to the 2009. One on coin, it reads "2009D", on the other, it's more like "2009 D" (large space between).

Is this normal for this series?

Thanks in advance!

 

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Would it be possible to post a pic of the two varieties? I've never heard of anyone mentioning this.

And welcome to the forum.....:smile

 

picture added

Thanks green18. Where on Long Island are you? I'm out east in Manorville.

Attached is the picture of the two coins. Thanks for looking.

 

Welcome to the forum!

And wow, you may have something there. I'll wait for the experts to come in with there opinions, but nice catch!!!!

 

Now that's an interesting catch indeed.....:smile

Oh, and I might add, nice photo....

 

Nice. Hope you didn't transfer prints to the coins for the sake of the pic.

Welcome to CT!

 

LOL....I was thinkin' that.

 

After my kids had them for a couple of days, I don't think my prints on them would stand out, as theirs are all over it!

 

That is really cool and interesting. I'm going to check my Sacs and Prezs to see if I can find one! Great find.

 

This is great, good catch!

Even the stars on the left and to the right of the date are shifted.

You and your son may be the first to have discovered this variety.

Thanks for sharing!
-LTB

 

Wow that's nice! I havn't seen that before.

 

....nice find! better give 'em a quick wash in acetone to keep the prints from

future damage. :kewl:

 

Very interesting!! For sure!!

 

You may have found the first of a new verity, lucky. And BTW welcome to CT.

 

Thanks for all the replies. I did give them a quick bath in acetone last night for a few seconds, and now they are sitting nice and clean and dry in some soft kleenex.

Sure would be nice if was a new variety, that would be cool. I'll keep investigating and see what I can find out, and I'll be sure to post my findings.

And please keep the comments coming!

Thanks!:thumb:

 

I wouldn't go buying a new car just yet as what you have simply appears to be a little slippage in the edge lettering machine which happens with some frequency on these coins. (Sacagawea and Presidential Dollars).

Some coins which get the slippage show damage near the slippage while others do not.

 

This would be a cool one to sent to the clearinghouse feature at the back of Coin World....

 

...good idea. i did that very thing with a nickel my brother found and they

did a story on it. turned out to be a capped die jefferson!

 

It is not a new variety. It is caused by slippage of the coin instead of rotating in the edge die. These have been seen ever since the President dollars first appeared back in 2007. If the slippage happens in a blank area of the edge you get a change in the spacing like your coin shows. If the coin continues to slip instead of rotating when it gets to the letters the raised letters carve a groove in the edge of the coin.

 

Edge lettering of the Presidential dollars and Sacagawea dollars are randomly oriented with respect to the faces of the coins. The way I understand it, the edge lettering is put onto the coins after the coin is struck. The coins are transferred from the coining press into a large hopper where they are fed into a machine to put the edge lettering on it. There is no way to orient the coin through the edge lettering machine in this process. So I expect virtually every dollar to be a little different from every other dollar. PCGS even grades Position A and Position B, where in one position, the edge lettering is right side up w/r to the obverse, and the other position is upside down w/r to the obverse. Since the orientation process is random, I would expect the populations of these 2 positions to be virtually the same if large amounts of coins are graded.

The edge errors that are bringing premiums are coins with no edge lettering or very weak edge lettering. One of the rarest errors was a Zach Taylor dollar with a 2010 edge date, when all of those dollars were struck in 2009. This happened when a Taylor dollar stuck in the hopper and went unnoticed while the new 2010 Sacagawea dollars were first made.

Here's a link to help understand the process:

http://presidentialdollarguide.com/presidential-dollar-error-coins/