Bad Everything 1886-O Morgan Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jack D. Young, Jul 30, 2022.

  1. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    OK, I look at examples like this as opportunities to learn...

    From one of a group of bad internet sellers and bad holders is this 1886-O Morgan.

    We found the genuine one sold in a GC auction and the bad one on the Bay.

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    bad combo.jpg


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    obvs.jpg

    What I was told in another forum by Daniel Carr is the reverse of the "coin" in the bad holder is the WRONG REVERSE for the date! The "type 4" reverse was used 1st well after 1886...

    off reverse.jpg

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    The chart is one Daniel provided in the other forum as well as the image of the reverse types.

    Best, Jack.
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

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  4. Kentucky

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    but but but "One of e-bay's most reputable sellers"...uh...never mind
     
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  7. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    OK I get it:):).
     
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  8. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    At least with the above example, there are differences in the font's and the QR code on the back of the counterfeit is invalid. One of the examples I saw on the other forum shows almost no differences between the holders. There are some scary bad fakes coming in from China.
     
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  10. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    That's a bit scary - it's a $3000 coin. I don't think I would have picked the coin itself as a fake, and the barcode scans correctly. I'm guessing it's really silver too. Lucky for us they were too cheap to get a real one for the reverse, and used a post-1900 O instead. There must be a bunch of these out there for it to be profitable. Hunt them down and arrest them.
     
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  11. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    My thought as well- definitely one to look for!
     
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  13. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    That’s what happens when you have your holders made in China. There are always “overruns.”
     
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  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Is it just me or did all that seller's coin listings disappear? Nothing left but magic Tibetan beads and fake jade.
     
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