US-Colonial - 1723 Woods Hibernia Farthing

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  1. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Pictured is a 1723 Hibernia Farthing that I acquired about a month ago.

    I believe that this specimen is a Martin 3.2/Bb.1 pursuant to attributions found in The Hibernia Coinage of William Wood (1722-1724), Sydney F. Martin, C4 Publications, (c) 2007.

    I like that the specimen retains nice coloring, even though it has some wear and a bit of pitting.

    This particular specimen's obverse/reverse die pairing (3.2/Bb.1) is reported by Martin as being an 'R3' on the Sheldon Rarity Scale. (201-500 known specimens presently exist.)

    Any comments and thoughts about it are appreciated and welcomed!

    Thanks, kindly

    CheetahCats
     

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  3. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    I have one also. I let my daughter take it to school when they were discussing the colonies. I really love colonial coins, but sadly can't afford most. I dream of a chain cent or a Fugio.
     
  4. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Captainkirk - I too have a special affinity for Colonials; Pre-Federals as well. I have one Fugio, though it's rather a low grade.

    Any chance you could post an image of your Hibernia?
     
  5. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    There's a decent worn Fugio on the CU forum's BST for around 200$, from an honest seller.
    This Wood's Hibernia looks nice to me, and better than mine, which has a dose of the green crud:

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  6. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    ksparrow - Thanks for posting yours. It IS a nice specimen too. Do you have the attributions for it? Also... what is the CU forum? It isn't CoinTalk forum, right? I'dl like to check out that Fugio...
     
  7. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    I will look for it tomorrow, it's late. I'll post it soon.
     
  8. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    ksparrow - Hope you don't mind... For a bit of fun, I attributed your Hibernia...
    • It is a Halfpenny.
    • I'm rather confident it is a Martin 3.2 Obverse / Bb.3 Reverse.
    • Approx grade pursuant to Martin's diagnostics: "VG-10 / G-6", not netted.
    • Sheldon Rarity Scale = 'R4'
    • Per spec, mean 7.39 grams, mean 27.2 mm
    I've attached the diagnostic images I used to identify and attribute your variety.

    (Key to attributions for Halfpenny can be found on pgs. 113-146 of Martin's aforementioned book. Obverse illustration can be found on pg. 153 of same. Reverse illustration can be found on pg. 285 respectively.)

    CheetahCats
     

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  9. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    I found my farthing. It's a 1723.
    Pics attached.
    If you want better pictures, I'll remove it from the 2x2 and use the camera macro.
     

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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Nice coins Kirk!! :)
     
  11. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    That is a nice looking farthing Kirk, indeed. If you could shoot a photo of it outside of it's 2x2, that would be cool!
     
  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Thanks so much for the attribution, CheetahCats! I'll review the details when I have more time. A lot of info for such a humble coin.
     
  13. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    You're welcome ksparrow. Believe it or not, it's very easy. Martin, in his book, makes it easy by walking through how to perform the attribution in about 15 steps. It actually took longer to put the red text in PhotoShop than to do the actual attribution!
     
  14. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

  15. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Thanks for posting the article. Awesome!

    Do you also study & collect Colonials?
     
  16. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    Yes, I don't focus on any one "series" but, am working on an evenly matched f-vf type set loosely following the PCGS reg. set Early American Coins and Tokens Basic Design Set (1616-1820)
    http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/SetComposition.aspx?c=1457
     
  17. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Cool. Some of the issues on there are extremely difficult to obtain, while others are much less difficult.
     
  18. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    Let's see if this link works , I uploaded pics to photobucket.
    http://pbckt.com/sB.dRcA

    Ok, that link works, the pics have zoom, but you won't need it. Man, this looks worse out of the 2x2. I am guessing it was dug.
     
  19. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    I was able to see the images via Photobucket.

    And indeed, it looks like it had been buried, and after discovery, was cleaned. Regardless, though, it's a nice Farthing :)

    I tried to "clarify" the image using PhotoShop with auto adjustments, but I don't think it changed the image much.
     

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  20. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    So, should I soak it in oil, or just go for the vinegar?
    Maybe toilet bowl cleaner?
     
  21. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Vinegar will work, but it will take all the original coating off and you have to be careful because it can end up bright red. Remember, vineger is acid so be careful.
     
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