Dateless Type 1 Standing Liberty Quarter

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  1. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    I know the pictures aren't much to go by, but do you think this one has a shot at being a 1916? The diagnostics appear to be there from what I can see. I will have better photos in a few days.

    thanks.
     

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  3. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

  4. swhuck

    swhuck Junior Member

  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Quick question guys. Assuming all diagnostics are correct, and it is determined that the piece is the date in question, the coin is still lacking a date. Will a tpg'er slab it?
     
  6. wiggam007

    wiggam007 Cut-Rate Parasite

  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  8. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    Wow, very interesting. :thumb:

    Regards,
    Stan
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    yes, ANACS will.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    OK, how 'bout the other two guys?
     
  11. Cringely

    Cringely Active Member

    Yes, I have a dateless 1916: PCGS 5704.02/21430001
     
  12. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Even G-4 1916 quarters are practically dateless for the most part, then it starts getting near or above 3K. And yes, all of the services will slab a dateless 1916, as the diagnostics are unmistakable in hand.
     
  13. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Awesome! Care to post a picture? I would guestimate that mine(if genuine) would grade FR-02 as well.
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Nice one !! :)
     
  15. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Ok, I have to ask. I clicked on the link and the dateless SLQ does not match any of the diagnostics for a 1916 in my opinion. The shield rivet detail is wayyy to clear, and the other diagnostics don't match either. I disagree with their assessment of "1 hair strand", as I've looked at hundreds of dateless 1917s and they all look like that. The 1916 is very distinct with the large single hair curl.
    All of the anacs certified Po1 and FR2 ones match, but this one just doesnt. I don't want to presume that I know more than Heritage, but did they screw up?? Or am I just losing it? I think someone got screwed on that deal. :-(
     
  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    The Heritage coin looks ok to me. The 2 diagnostics of importance in coins this worn are (1)the shape of the drapery to the left of Liberty's dexter (her right) leg, and (2)the visible crease in the sash below Liberty's dexter (right) arm which extends well to the left of the location of the vertical row of stars on the wall/bulkhead.
     
  17. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    I want to make sure we are looking at the same coin, because I see none of those diagnostics on this Heritage coin:
    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item...56&Lot_No=7171
    It screams 1917 all the way, especially the shield details. However, Heritage calls it a 1916; soo.......
     

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  18. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I was referencing the coin in post #5.
     
  19. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Ok, I agree with you on that ANACS PR1. Definitely genuine. The raw one on Heritage referenced by swhuck(post #3) is the one that really bothered me.


     
  20. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Alas, my fair maiden hath arrived. And she is quite "fair", wouldn't you agree??

    I am 99.99% sure this is a 1916. All of the diagnostics match, and there is even enough detail to see the broken beads over her head. There are a few wispy scratches on the obverse, but they arent very noticible and I think they are allowed given the coin is no better than FR-02.

    WOOHOO!
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  21. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Told ya!! LOL

    Congrats! So, how did you come by this fair lady?
     
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