Guess the grade? 1704 Half Crown R2 in Seaby

I recently managed to purchase this coin and it is listed in Seaby as R2 which means VERY RARE.

1704 seems to be a key date and these coins just four years later have a catalogue value of 50% lower than the 1704. I have recently sent the coin for grading at NGC and wanted to encourage members to offer their own Sheldon estimates.....let's see on point with their NGC grades!

 

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Thankyou for the reply.

 

Au 50 nice coin but no way MS way to much wear on hair,shoulders

 

Dreadful to excellent........interesting

 

How is that not soft strike in areas of highest relief on the obverse? That having been said, at least in the UK this coin would be dinged for the soft strike and might be graded as gVF. I am in the AU53 crowd at NGC grading.

 

I've long since given up trying to guess what the TPGs call the grade for almost any coin. They aren't consistent.

 

It's just to hard to read the remaining luster. I am leaning towards AU53.

 

Took a peak @ some surrounding years and am @ 53-55. Seems like there is some honest wear. What a pleasing coin and thanks for posting. Anxious to hear the results. Took a look @ one of PCGS' registry sets for this series and it appears this was one of two dates (out of thirteen) which carried double weight.

 

I'm not familiar with this series but was curious to see what people who are familiar thought.

For a 318-year-old coin, it really is in amazing condition. I know the obverse carries more weight on the overall grade with the TPG's and the reverse can't really increase the grade.

With that being said, I see some "weakness" on the obverse hair that I thought was wear from circulation. But I'm having trouble seeing obvious signs of wear on the reverse.

The harp, tops of all the crowns close to the rims, and the rays emanating from the center of the reverse, the lion's manes, all seem to be very well defined and not showing obvious signs of wear.

The "fingers" of little fleurs-de-lis(?) between the crowns might have some flatness, but I'm wondering if it might be from "compression" (during storage)?

Anyway, very impressive purchase. congrats and thanks for posting for us to enjoy.

Since I enjoyed this one so much I'll venture a guess that it might get an AU58 or possibly low MS if the graders determine the obverse weakness is due to the strike and not circulation.

 

AU. Wild guess

 

Just guessing on common ware. Not a coin that we see a lot. Keep your hopes up. 300 year old coin is very nice reguardless

 

Thanks for checking that out

 

Bet we’re all hopping for you. I enjoyed this thread. I love seeing coins I’ve never saw before

 

At this level one needs to be able to see the luster, and I really can't in the pics. But AU50 - 55 is what my gut says.

Great coin anyway, if my budget was bigger I'd gleefully buy this kind of stuff....

 

I did have a 1707 Crown, more common than this coin and with quite a bit more wear on the Anne bust....and it got AU50.

 

Paid $100 for a courier to deliver the coin to the NGC address 34240, and it was dumped at some post office 34230 which is not the address I paid for delivery. Parcelforce, annoyed would be an understatement.

 

Now appears to have been signed for, but not at the zip code specified.

 

RESULT! I nearly fell off my chair...........VF35

This is the most ridiculous result in the last 15 years with them. Waste of 170 dollars......it will be broken out of the slab on arrival.