CAVEAT EMPTOR, a strong new warning for internet buyers!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by imrich, Jun 22, 2022.

  1. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    That is a believed possibly defamatory FALSE STATEMENT, which you and other antagonistic individuals may get an opportunity to prove!

    What is ingenuous?
    showing innocent or childlike simplicity and candidness

    JMHO
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2022
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  3. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    A very wise person once said to me, "you think you're walking normal, but if the entire population is telling you, you walk funny, guess what, you walk funny".

    Rich, take a step backwards and do some reflecting. Just because in your mind everything is clear, well thought out and perfectly logical, the fact remains, everyone here is telling you otherwise. Your presentation is convoluted and totally illogical.

    Remember, your thread was not started to convince or explain your situation to yourself. It was obviously started to convey the situation to others. The 'others' have collectively expressed their confusion. Think about it for a minute. Be objective and try to accept some constructive criticism.
     
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  4. Steven Shaw

    Steven Shaw Well-Known Member

    naive
     
  5. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I believe relative to me that you are the legal description of naive (of a person or action). showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment!

    I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE NAIVE TO KNOW, MUCH LESS SHOW, RELATIVE CAPABILITY TO ME THROUGH ANY SOCIETAL STANDARD YOU MIGHT CHOSE TO DETERMINE OR USE. YOU ARE RELATIVELY INCAPABLE TO FACTUALLY PUBLICLY DECLARE OR SHOW WHAT I AM.

    I explained, so one of average intelligence, would understand the legal requirement to prove (without a "shadow" of doubt) that someone had intent aforethought.

    It appears that you declare knowing legality and requirement of legal proof better than I.

    It appears your preference in explaining rather than precedence or another means is to publicly ridicule/defaming by singular inappropriate word usage, and inciting.

    If you had declared it as an opinion, that would have been acceptable.

    I've publicly declared that unproven STATEMENTS/lies? are unacceptable in a public forum unless the victim is a well-known "public-figure".

    The standard chosen can be yours or other antagonists.

    I believe mine have been established!!!!

    JMHO
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    But for "well-known "public-figure"s, unproven statements are OK?
     
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  7. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I believe you'll find legally unproven personal statements aren't legally acceptable, but there have been many established exceptions, dependent upon who, where, when, why, how, etc..

    I believe you'll remember a famous religious leader who sued an infamous publisher.

    I believe the publisher won because of parody, and that a normal "reader" wouldn't believe in the actions' possibility.

    Johnny Depp might also express his concerns, etc..

    JMHO
     
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  8. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    In post #64, I expressed my belief for a time-place to discuss objective /constructive criticism was well stated.

    I believe as did the owner of a company you may of never heard, Accugrade.

    A group of very prominent individuals publicly defamed him, and I was willing to support him with a very extensive collection.

    My coin collection significantly included his gradings and others which were supported by his critics.

    He sued his critics!

    Accugrade received a settlement out of court. I still wonder about the money that was donated to the ANA Legal Fund. To my knowledge ANA will neither disclose the amount or account for the money. It's believed the sum was greater than a 7 figure amount?

    My initial post was accepted publicly in the thread, and privately to me by individuals who did understand.

    You sound as one of the Accugrade critics who deserved an opportunity to put money upon their words, which I believe is "just".

    Today the understanding wise far outnumber the believed less informed/educated, as the police/others stated at ~6 million in 2021 reported.

    I've been willing to let lesser? biased/critical decide, "Be objective and try to accept some constructive criticism."/facts
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Congratulations! You have won a top spot. On my ignore list. AU Revoir, genius.
     
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  10. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    First, short of counting through 64 posts I don't know to which you refer. I'm on an Android device that doesn't display post numbers.

    Second, I fail to see the relevance of the Accugrade story. Unless you're saying you intend to sue folks here.
     
  11. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    MERCI!!
     
  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I'm curious if you ever read what you write and ask yourself whether anyone else can understand what the hell you're babbling about. How about trying a very simple format, such as:

    1. I bought a coin
    2. I never received the coin
    3. I got a refund
    4. I then bought the coin again privately
    5. I never received the coin
    6. But I'm suing ebay/PayPal anyway

    That sort of thing. Simple, straightforward, plain English coin-related facts. Or perhaps I've just pretty much covered it.
     
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  13. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I believe you "fail to see the relevance", but believe @Kentucky (the question submitter does).

    Please contact a moderator to close this thread which appears to have generated unintended offence.

    It has served its' intended purpose of generating an anonymous location to disclose believed illegal victimization.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Honestly, do you expect people to know what you are talking about?
     
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  15. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Not my thread. Feel free though.
     
  16. Steven Shaw

    Steven Shaw Well-Known Member

    We have all been illegally tortured(victimized) by this thread
     
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  17. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Rotate your phone to landscape and you will see a Post number in the lower right side.
     
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  18. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Well bust my britches, would you look at that! ;)
     
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  19. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    3. Ebay/Paypal didn't release, withheld Sellers past sales funds as ebay had done to me initially before lengthy Paypal effort, as reported to me in writing, by Seller.
    4a. Seller couldn't pay "temporary" loan on my coin and others.
    4b. Ebay closed my Case, withheld my funds as had to involve/undergo lengthy Paypal process.
    5a. I received a long overdue ebay refund from Paypal.
    5b. Seller contacted me offering a direct sale for the coin, and coin funds repaid to Seller.
    5c. (Assumed) Seller never received his previously stated due ebay sales funds, couldn't repay his temporary hock loan, forfeighted mine/other coins.
    5d. I never received the coin....
    6a. Seller will be notified, additional 1 year extension of due refund pymt.
    6b. Ebay/A.G./C.C. et al will be informed of improper buyer protection policies that required Paypal timely investigative efforts for untimely release of my due ebay/Seller funds, resulting in police ~6 million 2021 theft reports
    7. Government/Congress may perform normal activities involving voters' reports (non-political, just facts)

    ANY OBJECTIVE COMMENTS, APPRECIATIVELY ACCEPTED, AS REQUESTED!
     
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  20. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Against my better judgement, let's see if I follow this...

    1. You made a purchase on eBay.
    2. Seller botched the transaction.
    3. eBay/PayPal buyer protection made it right.
    4. You attempted the same transaction outside of eBay (which is against eBay rules, unethical, and kinda dumb) and seller once again botched the transaction.

    So, it appears to me that you sent some random guy on the internet some money in the hopes that he would send you something in return, and he didn't (for a second time).

    Since you and the seller did an end-around on eBay, they have no relevance any more.

    The transfer agent (PayPal?) couldn't care less where you send your money as long as you authorized it.

    So it's between you and random guy to work it out. Maybe you can void the transaction through the transfer agent or take random guy to small claims court, or something else entirely?
     
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  21. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

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