How About Your Second Oldest Coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, Jun 15, 2022.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't think we'll continue on this theme much longer, but I thought it might be interesting to see the second oldest coin since contributors frequently show and discuss their oldest coin.

    Here is my contribution:
    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE.jpg
    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE
    AR Siglos
    OBVERSE: Persian king or hero in kneeling/running stance right, holding spear and bow
    REVERSE: Incuse punch
    Struck at Persia, 485-420 BC
    5.5g, 16mm
    Carradice Type IIIb, Group A/B (pl. XII, 18)
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Kelenderis, Cilicia, (440 - 400 B.C.)
    AR Stater
    O: Young man riding sideways on horse galloping left, nude, preparing to dismount, bridle in left hand on near side of horse, whip in left hand, A below before hind legs.
    R: Goat crouching left on solid exergue line, head turned looking back right, KEΛEN over ivy spray with leaf and berries, all in a shallow round incuse.
    Kelenderis (Aydincik, Turkey) mint
    10.83g
    20.1mm
    Celenderis Hoard 3 (O15/R15); SNG BnF 46; cf. BMC Cilicia p. 52, 10 (KEΛ); SNGvA 5617 (KEΛEN)

    Ex. Numismatik Naumann Auction 77 (5 May 2019), lot 304.
     
  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ....ahaha ><...ok...i got a couple Achaemenid siglos..:)..not sure exactly which ruler.. IMG_1172.JPG IMG_1174.JPG
     
  5. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    This is likely my second oldest coin (c54-63 AD):

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    Nero AR Hemidrachm of Caesaria, Cappadocia. c54-63 AD. NERO CLAVD DIVI CLAVD F CAESAR AVG GERMANI, laureate head right / Victory seated right on globe, writing on shield, SGI 616, RPC 3645. RIC 617. Sydenham 82.
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice example. I also favor my Nero example of this coin
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    NERO
    AR Hemidrachm
    OBVERSE: NERO CLAVD DIVI CLAVD F CAESAR AVG GERMANI, Laureate head right
    REVERSE: Victory seated right on globe, holding wreath in both hands
    Struck at CAPPADOCIA, Caesarea, 59-60 AD
    1.51g, 15mm
    RIC 617, BMC 409, RPC 3645
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..both those are very desirable coins of Nero gents! i don't have one o dem...yet! :D..but i do have some Neros..:) IMG_0476.JPG IMG_0477.JPG
     
  8. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    F53BABB2-7947-49EE-99CD-95565D046492_1_201_a.jpeg Bing,
    You hit it outa the park with your 'Post your Oldest...'
    Such a great idea to get people thinking about their collection this hot Summertime.
    For yours and the group consideration my 2nd oldest...maybe a lifetime..maybe just shy of...Alexandrean tetradrachm Myriandros mint.
    J.T. 98DB5D01-1F39-43F7-B8DF-07D2BCB0137C.jpeg E791C8D2-BB45-41B2-BEE9-928DC203893D.jpeg
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice!
     
  10. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I guess this is the second oldest. Given the date range for this type if might be the oldest.

    Thrace, Abdrea, 520-492 BC
    Oktadrachm, period II
    Spencer-Churchill 96

    29.3 grams

    D-Camera Thrace, Abdera, oktadrachm, period II 520-492 BC, Spencer-Chruchill 96  29.3g  01-26-21.jpg
     
  11. Mr.MonkeySwag96

    Mr.MonkeySwag96 Well-Known Member

    I also own a IVPPITER CVSTOS denarius of Nero in similar grade to yours.

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    I guess we’re getting off topic with all the Nero coins.

    I’ve already shown a group of my 2nd oldest coin(s) in Bing’s oldest coin thread, so I have nothing else to post here.
     
  12. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Not my second oldest but one of my oldest and a coin which started a trend in Magna Graecia
    Sybaris Ar Nomos 550-510 BC Obv Bull standing left head reverted. Rv, Bull standing right head reverted but incuse HN 1729 7.13 grms 27 mm Photo by W. Hansen sybaris2.jpg This is the city that apparently started these rather unusual and technically tricky coinages.
     
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  14. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    My second oldest cast bronze coin is from Olbia. The oldest & 2nd depend on who you believe. I think they are about the same age - 450 to 300 BC. Any one of those dates predates cast bronze coins from Rome & Central Italy.
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  15. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    i might own one roman or early age coin,... I have a widow mite but
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    If you can, show it. No restrictions on time of minting.
     
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  17. Mr.MonkeySwag96

    Mr.MonkeySwag96 Well-Known Member

    I’ve shown my oldest Greek coins on Bing’s previous post about our oldest coins:

    https://www.cointalk.com/posts/8385656/

    However, my main collecting areas are Roman Republic and Roman Imperial. Obviously most Roman coins aren’t as old as Greek coins. After all, the Greeks were minting coins long before the Romans did.

    Here are my oldest Roman Republic coins. My oldest Roman coins date to the Punic wars period. Unfortunately I don’t own any of the archaic cast bronzes such as Aes Rude, Aes Signatum, Aes Grave etc:

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    Roman Republic, Anonymous, 211 - 208 BC Silver Victoriatus, Rome Mint, 17mm, 3.29 grams Obverse: Laureate head of Jupiter right. Reverse: Victory standing right crowning trophy of arms and armor, ROMA in exergue. Crawford 53/1 // RSC 9

    Ex. Ken Dorney

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    Roman Republic, Anonymous, 217 - 215 BC AE Quartuncia, Semilibral Standard, Rome Mint, 16mm, 3.36 grams Obverse: Helmeted head of Roma right. Reverse: Prow of galley right, ROMA above. Crawford 38/8 // RBW 103 // Sydenham 88

    Ex. Ken Dorney

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    AR denarius, 187-175 BC, 21mm, 3.45gm. Winged head of Roma right / Dioscuri on horseback right, VF+, old collection patina, SR 112

    Ex. Wayne Sayles

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    P. Maenius Antiaticus M.f. 132 BC. AR Denarius (19.5mm, 4.03 g, 12h). Rome mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; mark of value to left / Victory driving quadriga right, holding goad, reins, and wreath. Crawford 249/1; Sydenham 492; Maenia 7

    Ex. Sphinx Numismatics
     
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  18. wittwolf

    wittwolf Well-Known Member

    Same Reverse as my oldest but a different emperor:
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    Emperor Tiberius - As - Lugdunum mint

    Obv.: TI CAESAR AVGVST F IMPERAT VII
    Rev.: ROM ET AVG
     
  19. sky92880

    sky92880 Well-Known Member

    Here is my second oldest and heavyest coin, 46.12 grams , 34.75 mm
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    i still need to attribute this one.
     
  20. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Lots of nice coins again.

    Thrace, Sestos
    Demeter/Hermes
    300BC
    Some attributions say this is Persephone on the obverse.

    It could be the first depiction of Hermes standing holding a caduceus on a coin. If you know of one older let me know.
    The image was used by many rulers all the way to Carinus and Numerian. That's the last time I could find it used.

    Sestos Demeter Hermes 300 BC.JPG
     
  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I only have three coins depicting Hermes/Demeter. Here is one:
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    CILICIA, KORYKOS CITY COINAGE
    AE 19
    OBVERSE: Turreted head of Tyche right; A behind. Circle of dots
    REVERSE: ΚΩΡΥΚΙΩΤΩΝ, Hermes standing left, holding caduceus, ΕΥ/ΕΠΙ/ΕΡ in left field
    Struck at Cilicia 1st century BC (100-30 BC)
    5.87g, 19.42
    SNG Levante 792; SNG France 1075
     
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