1916 Barber Dime - to grade or not to grade…that is the question…

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mark Metzger, Jun 7, 2022.

  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I recently purchased this raw 1916 Barber Dime. It is blast white in hand and I am contemplating sending it in for grading. I did my best to photograph it. It is truly stunning in person. The reverse is nearly flawless. I’d love opinions on grade and whether it’s worth it to send in…I hate that the wait is so long these days. Thanks, and enjoy!
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  3. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous coin. I'm afraid that the numerous obverse markings would detract from the overall grade; maybe MS-64 when averaged with the better grade reverse.
     
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  4. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    It's pretty but I don't think better then 64. At that grade, it's about a $200 coin wholesale and $300 retail when it's in a PCGS or NGC slab. Raw it's worth less.

    I would say it's on the bubble for grading from a strictly economic POV. Depends on how much you have in it and if the cost of grading, shipping, etc. makes it worth it.

    There are other reasons for slabbing it that may apply in your case but I leave that up to you.
     
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  5. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    Looks too good to be real. That is one beautiful coin.
    Let us know what it comes back as.
     
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  6. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Fortunately I’m only into it for $100. So, there’s enough wiggle room to send it in for grading. I’m just impatient and it seems the grading folks are really taking their time these days.
     
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  7. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    I personally would, simply because it’s in high grade and I’d be afraid to hold it in my hands out of fear of mishandling it and lowering the grade. I have a couple coins like that.
     
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  8. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    grade it here ! beautiful
     
  9. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Does this forum offer official grading services?
     
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  10. Scott J

    Scott J Well-Known Member

    We could do it!! I bet if we did a GTC for member submitted coins the average grade would be pretty close to a pcgs grade and better than some services.
     
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  11. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Historically, I feel like folks on here are far more critical than the real graders. Must be the high res images at 100x zoom.
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    B3115119-BF07-4C07-B474-4954F4AFBD4B.jpeg It is a beautiful coin, but I don’t think it would benefit from having it graded. I don’t think you would get the grade you are looking for.

    In this photograph, it looks lightly cleaned. I don’t know if it is your picture, or the way the coin really is.
     
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  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    There's already been movement in that direction, but the member who was spearheading the effort gave up when we pointed out that the floor plan for his planned grading facility had left out restrooms. :rolleyes:
     
  14. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Grade that sucker!!! even with possible details/cleaning grade it would increase the resale value considerably over the cost of the grading :D is just the wait time that sucks :D
     
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  15. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I’ve seen a lot of cleaned coins and a lot of possibly cleaned coins. I am 100% certain this coin is neither.
     
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  16. whopper64

    whopper64 Well-Known Member

    Grade it to simply get it slabbed and safer from the elements. Beautiful coin.
     
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  17. Steve Shupe

    Steve Shupe Active Member

    As Beautiful as the coin is, I think it will grade at MS63-64 due to the baggy marks on the lower obverse and the two small rim dings/marks.
     
  18. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I,m guessing a 64+ for luster.
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    So have I. I would not be certain that it isn’t a details coin, given all the swirls and graininess. You buy lots of raw coins, and many of them are questionable. This photo makes me pretty sure that it has been at the very least,wiped.

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  20. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    In my observation, graders are all over the place with Barber dimes. This one might get AU58 due to the rub/chatter below Dime, or it might get 63-64. It doesn't look cleaned to me and the reverse is stellar for the strike and eye appeal.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I appreciate the markup, but I can't see anything in those areas that I can distinguish from pareidolia. The photo just doesn't appear to convey enough detail.
     
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