1910 Lincoln Wheat Cent - Incomplete Clip?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by stldanceartist, May 25, 2022.

  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Hello again,

    Saw this interesting Wheatie the other day, figured I'd post it here and get some opinions on it.

    It's a 1910 P with what I (at first) saw as a rolling machine damage on the obverse. However, when I took a closer look, I'm pretty certain that's not the case.

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    There is a Lincoln Cent sized arc on the obverse that goes under the 0 in the date - I repeat, it's not on top of the date at all - so what's going on with this coin? Is this an incomplete clip? There is nothing (no damage or similar markings) on the reverse of the coin.
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Looks like a large scratch to me,you do know who did it could've stopped.Then did a smaller scratch on the other end of the (0) without going over.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    My take is another blank was on top that one got cut in the cresent shape , and then was ejected.
    Leaving this blank strached by the cut of the blank that was on top. This coin was then hit with the obv,and rev, dies minted and ejected.
     
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  5. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Thanks for the reply - in hand it doesn't look anything like a scratch though - much too even and uniform (that's just my opinion, though, and I realize all you guys have is a cell phone pic.)

    Interesting idea. I really wish I could get it in hand to take better photos.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @stldanceartist
    An Incomplete punch will show on both sides. Equal pressure is applied and will leave the curved mark on the Reverse also.

    Here is an example from my collection..
    1971 a.JPG 1971d.JPG 1971 c.JPG
     
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  7. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    Does the arc extend through the middle of the zero? I can't tell but it might just be the photo. Tried enlarging it but still can't tell.
     
  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yeah, pic a little too dark. Ed's got every error. He should know. ;)
     
  9. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Yes, I remember a Kennedy Half I posted here with an incomplete clip, which is why this coin was a bit confusing - nothing on the reverse - so I thought I'd ask about it.

    Yes, from what I recall, the arc runs through the center of the 0 as well.
     
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  10. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    Interesting but sorry I can't help. Not enough knowledge on the topic. Thanks for sharing. Nice cent still.
     
  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Everyone has a backside, where is yours? I enlarged the obverse pic, and it appears the line does not go completely go under the O. Just my opinion, thanks for sharing.
     
  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I doubt that very much.
     
  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Well almost.. I think it's impossible to have an example of each known mint error :rolleyes:

    I'm actually done collecting errors. Concentrating on my other hobbies. I'm even thinking of selling my mint error collection soon.
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I agree with Paddy54 more the major part. The minor part is not important as I have never seen up close the punching operation except on an old You-tube video. Jim
     
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  15. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Sure would be nice to have an error slabbed with "From the Ed P. collection"
    on the front.
     
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  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    To be honest trying to play this through in my head and trying to explaine so others understood...in my collecting years ive see some stuff that yeah makes you scratch your head and say whatbthe heck.... for its and giggles the weight and thickness of your coin does it fall within the parameters of a normal cent?
     
  17. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I will go check it out tomorrow and get back to you.
     
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  18. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    There is something about the texture of this coin that bothers me. See the frosted area on Lincoln's temple, with normal surfaces above and below that where the coin circulated a bit after the coin got frosted. Much of the obverse has that frosted surface, and it is nothing like I have ever seen on a Lincoln cent of that era.
     
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  19. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    It looks like PMD to me. If it were a planchet defect, the material movement would at the very least, disrupt the continuity of the arc and in the areas were material flows, obliterate it completely. It looks like the anomaly does interrupt the 0 in the lower left, and may have caused whatever it was to skip over to the other side of the digit. Or as noted, it may have been part of the effort of an individual to create the discontinuity. I don't believe it was damage to the die face or the planchet. I might suggest this is a case of 'tracing'.
     
  20. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, like paint.
     
  21. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I also had that feeling - the line looks a bit like the Zincoln plating issues.

    I have permission to bring it home with me tonight to get some better images, so maybe they will help clarify once I post them.
     
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