1909 vdb error missing E

I came across this 1909 vdb wheat penny coinroll hunting and have never seen or heard of one like it. I have talked to a couple coin dealers that have interest in purchasing but none can say much about it's value and none are even offering the same for. Which I'm not interested in getting rid of just trying to find out more about the error and what value it might have. If anyone can help or point me in right direction I'd appreciate it. Thanks

 

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Could be a worn die strike.. Grease filled in the incused E on the Obverse Die and didn't allow it to form properly during the strike of the blank plancher.

It's really nothing major. Very little or no premium IMHO

Or it could be a circulation hit. Damage.

BTW.. Not all coin dealers are knowledgeable in attributing mint errors. Some don't even care much for them.

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Mr. Ed - Specializing in collecting Mint Errors since 1986.

 

Yea, what Ed said. Welcome!!

 

Thanks definitely isn't damage from circulation and appreciate your awnsering. I'm just new to collecting so still trying to learn variety and error coins and seems like alot of people are just out to make some money off a guy who doesn't know, if that makes sense. I like collecting and prob wouldn't get rid of a coin I had found, well when it comes to pennies anyway, just to make a buck. I don't know why but pennies seemed to catch my attention to get me collecting and that's has my interest just there is so many different errors and varieties to learn with them. It don't all make sense to me yet, especially how one type error can happen on same type coin just different year and one be worth so much more. I guess I'll get it just have to stay at it which I'm sure I will. Thanks again

 

Welcome, Since dies of that time were often overused as their production was done manually ( humans) rather than current CNC (computer control), it is not uncommon to see damaged ones continue to produce oddities. The die that produced yours was well worn as the L is very close to the rim from spreading under pressure. Also the recessed die lettering could fill with grease and metallic particles and the raised lettering on the cent would disappear or be partly filled. Jim

 

Thank you Jim I appreciate it. Do you thank it would have any value being that it's a vdb penny with an error? Possibly the first error of the Lincoln wheat penny series I guess since it is first wheat cent produced or am I wrong about that as well?

 

Sorry, but it's a minor error. Filled dies are a relatively common error and rarely add any additional value unless they cover a significant area.

The value of your coin is based on the date and condition. The error adds nothing

 

I'm sorry ED I meant to ask you why would thank would have much value I guess I'm asking because I know the vdb penny was the first Lincoln wheat cent produced so could it also be the first error of the wheat cent series? Wouldn't that make it worth something a little anyway or am I wrong in thanking about it that way.

 

Thank you again jim. I appreciate it like I said I'm an earlier comment it still confusing to me but I'll get it.

 

Welcome to CT!

 

While a grease filled die isn't uncommon, it is less likely in the early 1900s, in my opinion. Like so many other things in today's life, pride of job and workmanship has pretty much gone by the wayside. I think that would make a 1909 VDB error more unusual, but not enough to warrant a premium over the current value of such a cent, but this is just my opinion.

 

A large number were saved as it was a new design. Small difference in VDB or no -VDB prices fom then to today , it will go more by the grade as Mountain man mentioned. Now the 1909 S and 1909 S/S horiz. rpm are close to the same price but the 1909-S VDB is significantly more because of the low numbers made. My S/horizS shown below. Jim