What would you do? Comments and opinions, please...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jeff 31, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Just go with the flow!!
     
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  3. cerdsalicious

    cerdsalicious BigShot


    You obviously havent been here long enough.
    I hope you enjoy your stay at CT. However i recomend experiencing more of ct before passing such judgement.
    My two cents
     
  4. financeman

    financeman Lincoln Cent Connoisseur

    I could say the same to you. Neither one of us have been here very long. You have been here for 4 months and me for 1
     
  5. Jeff 31

    Jeff 31 Junior Member

    Cheetah,
    I appreciate your way of thinking. It may be hard to believe after reading my post, but I really am in your camp, too. If something isn't yours, it isn't yours - I like to think in absolutes whenever possible. However, isn't there a threshold were something goes from being someone else's, to being "lost" and never to be recovered by the original owner? In other words, by your logic, you would leave a $20 on the ground on an empty street because it isn't yours, right? More specifically, if you were dumping coins and saw one coin in the reject tray, maybe it's a Walking Liberty half, would you leave it there? How many of us would leave it for the next customer to take? Notwithstanding the banking laws that you mention, which may render this entire discussion irrelevant, how far are you willing to follow your own logic?
     
  6. Jeff 31

    Jeff 31 Junior Member

    That really is the way I was looking at it. I would have kicked myself for walking out of there allowing the bank to pocket someone else's money after they themselves trapped it in the machine! It doesn't mean that I deserve it, but they sure don't. It's going to find its way to a charity today anyway.

    And I doubt the attendant set it up. I think most of them just don't pay that much attention to it, and/or don't care. But I wouldn't put it past some attendants to do such a thing.
     
  7. Hudson James

    Hudson James Junior Member

    I can't really understand your thinking here but I will explain later.

    The error in judgement was here:

    "the attendant said something to the effect of "did I only dump nickels", but I admittedly avoided the question by saying something about how many quarters there were."

    This was your opportunity to tell the truth and you passed on it for whatever reason.


    The excuse that you were a modern day Robin Hood and trying to save the bank from keeping someone else's money; I really can't except.

    Technically, it is the banks money. The money was in their coin machine, in their bank, on their property. It's not your responsibilty to police the coin machine and making the find doesn't give you the right to decide who it belongs to.

    Found money on the street ...sure finders keepers loosers weeper. In a storefront on private property, that is not your call to make, it's the property owners.

    Before you arrived, people entered the bank, conducted their business and obviously left with less than they should have. What's left behind belongs to the bank who provided you with access to the coin machine.

    That's my interpretation.
    Either way, donating the money is the right thing to do.
     
  8. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems


    The only one "tearing anybody's new one" is you when you suddenly take an honest asked for opinion about something and tear into us as group.
    What's wrong with you anyway? Sounded like a 10 year old!
    That was totally uncalled for and added nothing to this thread but attitude.
    You may (and should) adjust your attitude soon.
     
  9. Hudson James

    Hudson James Junior Member

    This post is very humorous.

    I most definately would not pull 212 loose quarters out of a coin machine and claim them as mine when I know for a fact they weren't. That's quite voluminous and I'm sure it was quite a scene.

    Fortunately for the some of us, YOUR human nature is not MY human nature. Instead of "survival of the fittest", it's more like "do the right thing".

    Thanks for the chuckle.
     
  10. financeman

    financeman Lincoln Cent Connoisseur

    As I said earlier, I 100% agree with both of you. I thought it was definately bad taiste to act that way on here when the OP asked for opinions. It is not like we forced them on him.
     
  11. TDBank

    TDBank Junior Member

    Hi, we are sorry to hear about that and we pride our selves on the machines being accurate. The machine is tested three times a day to make sure its working properly. Also your point about the foreign coin is incorrect. The machines and the bank don't keep the foreign coin. It spits them, as well as the silver dollars, out at the bottom so customers can retrieve them. Penny has a 99 percent accuracy rate. This sounds like a rare instance, but can you tell me what branch you were at so we can do a quick and thorough investigation?
     
  12. Jeff 31

    Jeff 31 Junior Member

    Hudson,
    Very good points, and I don't feel very good about the fact that I was less than truthful to the attendant. But it still burns me that they would block the reject slide. The reject tray is a fraud if the coins can't get out! I'm sure most people have no idea when they check the tray and find nothing, that their money may be behind the bag! Perhaps my actions, though questionable to some, have pointed out at least to this bank the need to install the bag properly.
     
  13. Jeff 31

    Jeff 31 Junior Member

    LOL! This is funny. But as long as we're breaking each other's stones here, how about some remedial spelling/grammar lessons, eh?
     
  14. TDBank

    TDBank Junior Member

    Honestly, we'd like to check the machine you mentioned. Please let me know which one it is. Thank you.
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The OP gave the information to me in a PM:secret:. He was on vacation in Anchorage, Alaska. Have a nice trip and dress warm.:p
     
  16. Pilkenton

    Pilkenton almost uncirculated

    Right or wrong, the deed is done. Don't beat yourself up over it. It's your money now. Remember, you did nothing wrong. Yeah, technically it's not your money, but it's not the bank's either. If you gave the money back, I doubt that the bank would bother looking for the owner. They might hang onto it for a while to see if anybody claims it, but that's it. There is no right or wrong. Take your family to McDonald's.

    Got a question for TDBank, because you seem to be in the know. What happened was in the past. You seem to want to get to the bottom of this. You want to get the machine fixed. But what is your opinion on what he should do with the money now?
     
  17. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter


    Though I have not yet donated to the fund, I have to agree with this. Erase all guilt and be done with it.

    The bag covering the return tray was not an accident. You just took money that someone else was going to steal if I had to bet. They probably got a big surprise when they opened it the next time.
     
  18. Hudson James

    Hudson James Junior Member

    I'm sorry but IMO this logic is inherently flawed and goes to show that anyone can justify just about anything they want if they try hard enough.

    There is no techically about it....lol. Did he bring it into the bank? No. The fact that someone left some money inside a bank machines makes it the banks money ..not technically but .. yeah, actually.

    Is it laying on the carpet in plain view?
    No, a bank employee had to open the bank's machine to provide access to the money.

    The bank is under no obligation to seek out the owner. It was abandoned.

    A+ for creativity though.
     
  19. Hudson James

    Hudson James Junior Member

    It's water under the bridge now ...learn from your error and move on.

    You don't know that they intentionally blocked the slide..do you?

    It could have been an honest mistake. Again ...you are not the bank machine police. Stuff happens, it's not your place in life to fix everything that goes wrong. You don't own the machine and you dont work at the bank so all you can really do is point out that there is a problem and let it go.
     
  20. Jeff 31

    Jeff 31 Junior Member

    For what it's worth, I just took the extra money, doubled it, and sent it to the Coin Talk Shriners fund drive. I see that the goal of $2000 has almost been reached!
     
  21. financeman

    financeman Lincoln Cent Connoisseur

    way to go, I think that was the right thing to do in this case. At least it is going to a good cause and your extra that you sent was great. :thumb:
     
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