World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Ag76, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. WoodyWW

    WoodyWW Junior Member

    Thanks, Milesofwho! I should have given the diameter of the coin tho, which is approx. 1.3125 inches (roughly 33mm). I don't have a scale accurate enough, but I compared it to a 1 oz. ASE, & it "feels" like maybe 1/2 oz. or a little less.

    I *think* it's a 1/2 Kronenthaler KM# 34, like this: But you put me on the right track, thanks.

    https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...ler-km-34-1786-1790-cuid-1051102-duid-1225694
     
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  3. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    First 2022 addition. Wedding schautaler (Hochzeitstaler). Broad planchet, 51.5mm, Struck in 1 taler weight (27.8). Behrens 727a, attributed to Lubeck mint master Jürgen Rothusen (circa 1580).

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  4. Mac McDonald

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  5. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    I was fortunate to pick it up for sure. And looking back on prices 2 years ago VS what things are selling for today, I am glad I was able to get stuff then, though I wish I had bought more!
     
  6. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany REUSS-GERA Heinrich XXX Konventionstaler 1763 40.5 mm 28.88 g

    In the 12th century the Reuss family started the odd and confusing habit of naming all males in the family Heinrich, with an irregular numbering system.

    This coin was struck to commemorate the Treaty of Hubertusburg, signed on 15 February 1763 at Hubertusburg Castle by Prussia, Austria and Saxony to end the Third Silesian War. Together with the Treaty of Paris, signed five days earlier, it marked the end of the Seven Years' War. The treaty ended the continental conflict with no significant changes in prewar borders. Austria and Saxony renounced all claims to the Silesian territories ceded to Prussia in the 1742 Treaty of Berlin and the 1745 Treaty of Dresden.

    Obv. arms: 2 helmets with dog head and crane respectively over qtrd. arms of Reuss (lion l.) and Kranichfeld (crane) in ornamented shield
    Rev.: NEGLECTAE. VIRTVTI. DECVS. RESTIT (Honour reinstated neglected valour) Male figure of Freedom handing sceptre to female figure of Virtue over cityscape, in exergue MDCCLXIII over X. EINE. F (eine). M (arck).

    Reuss-Gera Heinrich XXX Taler 1763 obv 189.jpg Reuss-Gera Heinrich XXX Taler 1763 rev 192.jpg
     
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  7. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Not quite crown-sized, but pretty close (80%).
    Victoria, Double Florin, 1890
    My first coin of this denomination, I believe.
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Love the grey look.
     
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  9. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Picked this one up at yesterday's Davisson auction
    Austria 1704 Thaler

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    AUSTRIA. Olmutz. Karl III. 1695-1711

    Weight: 28.4 gm
    Diameter: 46 mm
    Composition: Silver

    Obverse: Bust right with a beaded border
    Reverse: Crowned arms.

    KM 362. Dav 1208.

    Good Extremely Fine; attractive old toning over fresh surfaces; slight flan flaw at 7'.
     
  10. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    You guys are a bad influence! :) After perusing this thread, I decided to start collecting some of these beautiful world silver crowns, thalers, and others.

    Here is my first one, inspired by one that was posted earlier. Not the greatest photo but you get the idea.

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    Germany. Frankfurt. Vereinstaler 1860. Dav. 649.

    I normally focus on artistic Greek silver but am running out of targets that are affordable. I was down to buying maybe one coin a year for my main collection. The prices lately have not helped. I realized there are lots of really nice world silver that are very artistic and affordable.

    John
     
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  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Great start! One of my favorites.
     
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  12. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany REUSS-GREIZ Joint Issue of Heinrich IV of Obergreiz & Heinrich V of Untergreiz Reichstaler 1624

    Heinrich IV and V were brothers due to the Reuss family's habit of naming all males in the family Heinrich

    Reuss-Greiz Heinrich IV & V Taler 1624 LD obv 781.jpg Reuss-Greiz Heinrich IV & V Taler 1624 LD rev 788.jpg
     
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  13. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I am going to post this one because of its diameter. It's 1/2 Thaler weight but 46mm diameter. I went to the Central States show yesterday and picked it up.

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    AR 1/2 Taler, 14.45g (46mm, 6h). For the 100 year celebration of the Naumburger Convention. Martin Luther facing; the year 1616 in exergue / City view.

    References: Opitz 2310. Whiting 138. Tornau 1474 Ia
     
  14. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    It looks like 1661 to me. How do you know it's 1616?
    What does the 6h mean?
     
  15. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Sorry, typo. It is 1661. The 6H is basically, coin rotation. I don't usually include it in my descriptions, but this seller did.
     
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  16. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    That is a cool portrait of Martin Luther
     
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  17. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    At the local giant flea market for $40 each:

    1889 Brazil 2000 Reis and 1849 A France 5 franc

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  18. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Very nice pair of silver dollars. I think the Brazilian standard at the time was .9166 fine, not .900 I think the pix of the obv & revs are paired with the wrong coins tho. The 2000 reis reverse goes with the 1889 King Peter II obverse.
     
  19. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    And these are obviously near each other. I simply took two photos - one with one side of each coin and one with the other sides.

    I do think these are decent original surfaces if a bit heavy toned.
     
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  20. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany LIPPE-DETMOLD Hermann Adolf Taler 1658 (actually struck in 1659)

    Lippe-Detmold Hermann Adolf Taler 1658 LD obv 376.jpg Lippe-Detmold Hermann Adolf Taler 1658 LD rev 388.jpg
     
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  21. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Ah, I see now. Yes the surfaces look quite original on both pieces. Both coins are quite historical and of course of good silver.

    I use Corel PhotoPaint and merge the reverse and obverse photos into one pix. You can see the red background at right is darker than the left. Bra_960reis_1816-R_special-series_both_1080.jpg
    Brazil 960 reis, 1816 Rio mint, AU or uncirculated, Special Series
    SNB Auction, Sao Paulo, Brazil, XXI Congresso, Dez, 2017 Lote# 268

    The special series was issued to celebrate Brazil being raised to co-equal status in the Empire as Portugal. A small minority of coins issued only in 1816 were of the special series type.

    Here is a better example of the photo editor merge.
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    Brazil 960 reis, 1816 Rio mint, regular series
    The difference is only in the obverse lettering.
     
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